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Old 11-09-2014, 08:38 PM
 
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Right. It could just become a state-by-state issue. Insurance is local anyway, those states continuing with AC will have reduced premiums (subsidized) and the other states participants will see huge premium increases.

And the states that didn't accept expanded Medicaid will still have their hospitals closing thru lack of funding (fed) resulting in reduced access to ERs.

Strange how it might work out.
Sounds good to me. And there's not a lot of anti-ACA rhetoric in Washington state. The Washington Republican AG joined that anti-ACA lawsuit in 2009 and then tried to run for governor. They even had ads showing him speaking at a Tea Party rally. That was it for him. He lost.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Our whole plan changed. We now have HCAs. It's definitely different. But if doing that means everyone has health coverage? Fine. I also would like to not have health care tied to a particular employer. My first choice would be universal health care or Medicare for all. But since that's not happening, I say, if you kill ACA, kill Medicare too so everyone can share in the results.
Yes why stop at ACA, kill Medicare and Medicaid for that matter why go half way.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Yes why stop at ACA, kill Medicare and Medicaid for that matter why go half way.
Don't stop there. Kill VA as well. Also TRICARE (military insurance).
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:43 PM
 
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Yes why stop at ACA, kill Medicare and Medicaid for that matter why go half way.
That's what I want. There should not be "one government health care coverage program is good but another is bad". If Republicans really believe that government involvement in health care coverage is bad, then it should all go. Starting with these older Republican voters on Medicare. Be consistent. Right now, I'm paying the maximum into Medicare and that's wealth redistribution. I won't stand for it!
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:43 PM
 
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Corrupted by government? What do you think MEDICARE, which millions of Seniors rely, is? GOVERNMENT. Do you favor Paul Ryan's plan for vouchers too for profit Insurance companies for this too? Everything in our society must be PROFIT oriented?
Yes. But it's not only an American or a conservative thing.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:45 PM
 
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Don't stop there. Kill VA as well. Also TRICARE (military insurance).
Exactly. Kill it all. That's my tax dollar and I don't see why I should pay for Joe Blow's knee operation in Tennessee. Besides, I don't want the government to get between Joe Blow and his doctor. It would be bad.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:46 PM
 
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Look at how well the VA is run.

I rest my case.

The free, private market can simply run big things better. Our founders understood this.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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Look at how well the VA is run.

I rest my case.

The free, private market can simply run big things better. Our founders understood this.
Then I'm going to put you down as a "Yes" for killing VA, Tricare, Medicare, Medicaid and ACA, right? Kill it all?
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:07 PM
 
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explain.
ACA was passed to cut premiums $2500 and insure every american.

it does neither
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:11 PM
 
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ACA was passed to cut premiums $2500 and insure every american.

it does neither
Good, let the Republicans end all government health care programs. And they will own the results, which they cannot complain about because the only thing we've heard for the past six years was "Government health care is bad!" And "Romneycare is completely different than Obamacare! Romneycare is about personal responsibility! Obamacare is about socialism!" Kill it all though, including Medicare.
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