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Old 01-24-2015, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I think he should stand, out of respect. However, if he chooses not to recite the pledge, that is his right. Not standing only brings unwanted attention and only shows disrespect. I don't believe in mindless patriotism, however, kids need to learn to be respectful, if nothing else.
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:04 AM
 
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Under what criteria does this belong?

I was going to say "first world problems", but it's not.

Tell your stepson this should be his biggest challenge in life.

For Pete's sake
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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Yes, I suppose he has the right not to stand. But it seems like he is at a pretty delicate point in his life and it's time to step up as parents. He sounds like he could be on the path of being a little snot that just chooses to be difficult for the sake of doing so. Give him some guidance, or frankly play hardball, and get him in line. Or he's on the path of not showering for weeks on end and protesting capitalism while living in a tent city in Brooklyn.

My best friends younger brother was shot in the head by a sniper in Iraq five years ago. I'd be happy to send a picture of him in his uniform proudly serving his country, and then the letters his parents wrote after learning their son sacrificed his life for your step sons freedom to be too lazy to stand and honor his country. Maybe he can find it in him to stand and honor Justin, and thousands like him.
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:18 AM
 
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R-e-s-p-e-c-t find out what it means to me.

Child wasn't instructed correctly from the time he was young.

It's a charter school, your kid had to be accepted, comply with the rules or GTFO and go to some poor to average government education camp.

No he doesn't have the right not to stand or comply in this instance.
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:29 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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R-e-s-p-e-c-t find out what it means to me.

Child wasn't instructed correctly from the time he was young.

It's a charter school, your kid had to be accepted, comply with the rules or GTFO and go to some poor to average government education camp.

No he doesn't have the right not to stand or comply in this instance.
This is not a private school. A charter school is publicly funded. I believe in the pledge, and would never allow my children NOT to stand and say it. When dealing with minors, that is a parent's decision to make. Not a school's decision.

As I have already stated, forcing someone to pledge "liberty for all" is as hypocritical as it gets. As long as the parent's are fine with it, you can't take away their liberty to raise their children as they see fit.
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:29 AM
 
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Of course he and all students should stand up for the pledge of Allegiance.

Stand up for what, not even a minute to show respect for our country and ALL the people who fought for it.
Lost their life and their families pain.

Of course they should!

It instills loyalty to the country you live in.
And as parents, we need to support that.

To many Americans bash America, so sad.

And I am glad the school is writing these students up.
Who is in charge here?
The school or the kids?
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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Much to do about nothing which consumes society how days ;ignoring the important things. We all have to do thing we don't like or agree with so we are not in constant conflict.
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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This is not a private school. A charter school is publicly funded. I believe in the pledge, and would never allow my children NOT to stand and say it. When dealing with minors, that is a parent's decision to make. Not a school's decision.

As I have already stated, forcing someone to pledge "liberty for all" is as hypocritical as it gets. As long as the parent's are fine with it, you can't take away their liberty to raise their children as they see fit.
Never stated it was private school. Seems like some education on the subject charter schools might benefit you.

If that school is compliance with their charter then as I stated before. Dont like it? GTFO. It's that simple.
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:45 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Much to do about nothing which consumes society how days ;ignoring the important things. We all have to do thing we don't like or agree with so we are not in constant conflict.
That makes it a choice. We don't HAVE to do anything we don't want to do. We sometimes choose to do things we don't want to do because we prefer doing the task to the negative outcome of NOT doing it, or because the positive outcome of doing it outweighs the negative act of doing something we don't want to do. Liberty is having the right to do what you want as long as you don't violate anyone else's rights. One may choose not to do what they like because they don't want a negative reaction, but that is their choice. As opposed to the government telling them they CANT do it.

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Old 01-24-2015, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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You shouldn't have to do anything you don't want to do when it comes to silly things like this. I didn't stand for God Bless America during the invasion of Iraq. Maybe not wise in South Carolina.

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This is not about religion not as far as we are concerned.
I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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