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Old 02-03-2015, 06:59 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Report: 5.5 million Additional Work Permits Issued Since 2009 In

Well, it explains why Americans are on disability and welfare. He succeed in fundamentally changing America.
Working in social services in a rural, ag-based area, I come across a lot of "anglo natives" who are on disability and welfare. And it's usually pretty obvious that the real reasons they're not working, let alone not competing for even menial jobs, have little to do with the presence of "illegals" (although it makes for a nice-sounding "excuse")!
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:09 AM
 
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Let this not devolve into the 'race rat hole'. We have way too many citizens of all stripes, who lack a work ethic. For whatever reasons. [/quote]QUOTE=mateo45;38286655]Working in social services in a rural, ag-based area, I come across a lot of "anglo natives" who are on disability and welfare. And it's usually pretty obvious that the real reasons they're not working, let alone not competing for even menial jobs, have little to do with the presence of "illegals" (although it makes for a nice-sounding "excuse")! [/quote]
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I will guess that those jobs are for very talented people working in hi-tech, and for the people who do the jobs that none on this discussion have tried or are willling to do.
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:22 AM
 
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I don't think Americans are willing to take many of the jobs that immigrants do.
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:43 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Let this not devolve into the 'race rat hole'. We have way too many citizens of all stripes, who lack a work ethic. For whatever reasons.
QUOTE=mateo45;38286655]Working in social services in a rural, ag-based area, I come across a lot of "anglo natives" who are on disability and welfare. And it's usually pretty obvious that the real reasons they're not working, let alone not competing for even menial jobs, have little to do with the presence of "illegals" (although it makes for a nice-sounding "excuse")! [/quote][/quote]

Besides messing up your typing, you're also confusing "race" with "culture" (and I think deliberately so, because it's understandably embarrassing). So while "some" folks routinely carp about 'ghettoes' and 'immigrants', it's no secret that we also have a huge underclass culture, that happens to be of the "anglo" persuasion, and consumes the overwhelming majority of social services and welfare benefits. Or do you think that's all simply due to the presence of "illegals"?

White People Make Up 42% of the Poor, But Take in Whopping 69% of Government Benefits
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Old 02-03-2015, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Obama wasn't President previous to 2009. The post was about what the Obama administration did, not what the Bush administration did. What happened prior to 2009 is irrelevant to that. We weren't in a recession then. Your attempt at deflection fails.


from All U.S. Jobs Did Not Go to Immigrants : Immigrants, however, have recovered more quickly from the Great Recession than native-born Americans. The foreign-born job numbers for all workers are up 567,000 since the fourth quarter of 2007, the start of the recession, while the native-born job numbers are down by 3 million.


And what is the Obama administration doing regarding immigration? Trying to enact reforms which will legalize millions of immigrants.


Too many of you leftists start believing your own rhetoric and actually think you are intellectually superior to everyone around you. You can go around claiming how you are highly educated and enlightened all you like, but when it comes time to practice what you preach, you're going to fall flat on your face. Presupposing that anybody who disagrees with you can't possibly have an answer to what you've said just makes you look like a fool when they do.
I have a request-please use accurate terminology. "Immigrants" are invited guests that desire to stay in this country. Most of those you are referring to are not immigrants, they are criminal aliens. Or trespassers if you prefer. Referring to them as immigrants gives legitimacy to their criminal acts. It's like calling a rapist a sexual partner.
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Old 02-03-2015, 08:29 AM
 
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Report: 5.5 million Additional Work Permits Issued Since 2009 In

Well, it explains why Americans are on disability and welfare. He succeed in fundamentally changing America.
not good for americans

But maybe Obama should advertise where one can hire these low paid workers so we can all hire them to
Build us a house cheap instead of just businesses being able to.

there we don't need to hire the businesses to do it anymore when we can do it ourselves.
cutting the middle men out



two can play that game

and if it costs too much pay a teen to do the jobs.
if it is illegal well sorry it's my relative helping out.
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Old 02-03-2015, 09:09 AM
 
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Obama wasn't President previous to 2009. The post was about what the Obama administration did, not what the Bush administration did. What happened prior to 2009 is irrelevant to that. We weren't in a recession then. Your attempt at deflection fails.
We were not in a recession previous to 2009? Are you effin' serious? If this is what conservatives actually believe, that would explain a lot.

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OK, now that's settled: If you want to establish that the Obama administration has somehow broken with common immigration practice and done something exceptional, you have to establish some sort of baseline. Doing otherwise leads to this exact situation: People going off half-cocked without having any idea whether the situation you're mad about is even unusual. You have no clue whether this is an abnormally high number of EADs, do you?

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Too many of you leftists start believing your own rhetoric and actually think you are intellectually superior to everyone around you.
As far as I can tell, I'm the first one in this thread who knows jack sh.t about what an EAD is, why it's issued and why adding them over 5 years smells of deliberate deceptiveness.

In short, it appears you're being had.
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Old 02-03-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment

This explains how they ghosted American workers
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Old 02-03-2015, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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As far as I can tell, the group is pretty ignorant about the way your typical legal immigration takes place.
Among other things.
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