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So... tax breaks, loopholes and not raising the minimum wage (so that your employees qualify for food stamps) don't count as corporate welfare?
Its not the place of corporations to determine if we will help others or not. Its up to us. Quit trying to shirk your responsibilities off on some boogeyman.
Corporations are there to provide goods and services, not welfare.
Tax breaks and loopholes don't give money to corporations. They simply allow them to keep more of the money they've earned.
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and not raising the minimum wage (so that your employees qualify for food stamps) don't count as corporate welfare?
No. For the reason I've already stated, and because the low-income have made their own choices to glut the low-wage labor market by over-reproducing and voting for Democrats who wish to allow millions of illegal aliens to compete with them for jobs and wages.
the federal govt kicks back rural hospitals X millions per hospital.
It's hard to tell the specifics. Plus Medicare provides what's called "pass through" kick backs to keep surgical services functioning.
So without knowing the specifics of each hospital. It's hard to tell how well a hospital is doing once you remove the federal additional money that non rural, non indigent hospital do not get.
It is hard to compare one to another. Ours has made good money the whole time I've practiced here. Since '81.
Low grade inflation is about a given with any successful modern country these days. It does make it all the more hard to plan for retirement. But given on balance public and central money support for SS and Medicare, IMO we are moving in the right direction. UHC would also be in the right direction, but not my choice. I still support the Public option and would let the privates fill the desired niches.
Its not the place of corporations to determine if we will help others or not. Its up to us. Quit trying to shirk your responsibilities off on some boogeyman.
Corporations are there to provide goods and services, not welfare.
It's the government's job to promote the general welfare... is it not?
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Tax breaks and loopholes don't give money to corporations. They simply allow them to keep more of the money they've earned.
LOL, "earned" by not paying taxes.
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No. For the reason I've already stated, and because the low-income have made their own choices to glut the low-wage labor market by over-reproducing and voting for Democrats who wish to allow millions of illegal aliens to compete with them for jobs and wages.
....that has nothing to do with health care or welfare.
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Which benefits American workers and retirees by causing their $24 trillion worth of pension/retirement investment assets to appreciate in value.
Low grade inflation is about a given with any successful modern country these days. It does make it all the more hard to plan for retirement. But given on balance public and central money support for SS and Medicare, IMO we are moving in the right direction. UHC would also be in the right direction, but not my choice. I still support the Public option and would let the privates fill the desired niches.
Only in a perfect world would public option exist with private players. Public option will eventually kill the private market.
When they fail due to their own choices are we to just pay their entire way?
Convenient you wouldn't answer my question. To answer yours, no. That is why I am all for a sin tax on unhealthy food and activities. By all means, be unhealthy if you want, just be prepared to pay for it. Ill be waiting to hear your response in how an uninsured lung cancer patient w low income should just go to er instead of an oncologist even though they never smoked in their lives.
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Hel* no! They would not even have that ability if those posting on here had their way.
I would like conservatives on here who despise intervention in health care demand to repeal EMTALA. It doesn't get worse than having a Dr provide care to an individual who cant pay to treat them any ways or face certain fines or even imprisonment if they refuse to be subjugated to slavery of free labor.
Only in a perfect world would public option exist with private players. Public option will eventually kill the private market.
There should be niches remaining for private coverage.
Plans to lower copays and deductibles like Medicare supplements.
Plans to cover elective stuff and other stuff not covered with a Public option.
Specialty hospital coverage.
Plans that have more options with providers.
Out of area, state or travel plans.
Concierge would probably still exist.
And docs and/or hospitals should not be required to join.
Convenient you wouldn't answer my question. To answer yours, no. That is why I am all for a sin tax on unhealthy food and activities. By all means, be unhealthy if you want, just be prepared to pay for it. Ill be waiting to hear your response in how an uninsured lung cancer patient w low income should just go to er instead of an oncologist even though they never smoked in their lives.
I would like conservatives on here who despise intervention in health care demand to repeal EMTALA. It doesn't get worse than having a Dr provide care to an individual who cant pay to treat them any ways or face certain fines or even imprisonment if they refuse to be subjugated to slavery of free labor.
A sin tax on junk food haha so I'm taxed because I want a big mac and still live my relatively healthy lifestyle? Go to any low income store an watch what the majority of ebt users buy. Now you are denying the needed food to the people you claim to want to help.
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