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Old 02-22-2015, 01:15 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jackmccullough View Post
There are only two possibilities here:

1. you don't know any liberals and know nothing about how liberals think, or
2. you have decided that the most effective way to advance your view in a political debate is to lie.

Which is it?
I think he's just saying that Liberals tend to be the "social justice" types, who tend to think in terms of the collective as opposed to confronting the problems of the individual, i.e. *everyone* in society- and I think he's right on the money.

 
Old 02-22-2015, 03:03 AM
 
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A liberal is a person in favor of the rights of the average person, not just the rights of wealthy people. A Republican is a person in favor of the rights of wealthy people, and who believes the world would be a better place if all the poor people would drop dead. A Nazi is a person who picks a large group of people and incites hatred against them. The German Nazis of the 1920's-1940's incited hatred against Jews. Modern American Nazis incite hatred against liberals.
Unlike you- you're definitely not inciting hatred against Republicans here....
 
Old 02-22-2015, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Wrong. Lets break this down.

1) Nationalization of corporations and industries.
2) profitsharing
3) expanded pension
4) Keynesian economic policies
5) anti free market/capitalism
6)pro animal rights
7) pro government control

Nazi's were fiscally left wing and liberal on social issues.

"We are socialist's, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions." Hitler's speech 1927

Liberals love to try and say because he was a fascist he was far right. Yet all that Hitler stood for does not sound very conservative.
Hitler was as "liberal" as you can get. Supported unbridled government power, suppressed those that dissented, and attacked capitalism. Modern, revisionist history has liberals attempting to "repackage" the truth once again.

The OWM mobs seem a lot like the mindless syncopates that supported Hitler.
 
Old 02-22-2015, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Go look up any college level book on political science, they were fascist just like their Italian ally. Sure it has the word Socialist in it just like North Korea has Democratic in its name. Socialist, unionists and communist were all considered enemies of the State. It is clear in history and political science books. Current politics say otherwise for the sake of demonizing their opponents but NAZI were extreme right wingers. There was a reason Hitler went against Stalin in WWII.
That reason was that the Soviet Union had the oil that Hitler needed to continue his war michine.
 
Old 02-22-2015, 09:12 AM
 
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To be honest, it does seem like most people have something negative to say about Jews across all ethnic lines. It just seem ok to hate Jews or make negative comments about Jews and I will never understand it. I'm a Christian and you can't get any more Jewish than Jesus the Christ. I love to throw that in people's face when they start bad mouthing Jews. I tell them their savoir is very much a Jew. The hypocrisy is astounding.
 
Old 02-22-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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When I see other numbers in the report like this:

Gender bias
Of the 30 victims of hate crime motivated by an offender’s bias toward gender:
25 were categorized as anti-female.
5 were anti-male. (See Table 1.)

Gender-identity bias
Of the 33 victims of gender-identity bias:
25 were victims of anti-transgender bias.
8 were victims of anti-gender non-conforming bias. (See Table 1.)


These numbers are so pathetically low as to tell me that there are huge reporting biases...I don't know why we have to say that something is or is not important based on how many people are suffering. ALL of these hate crimes are wrong...and they are ALL being under-reported.
The problem is that while a bias can exist you have to PROVE it in order to make the hate crime stats.

So, obviously, the stats are under-reported.
 
Old 02-22-2015, 12:05 PM
 
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To be honest, it does seem like most people have something negative to say about Jews across all ethnic lines. It just seem ok to hate Jews or make negative comments about Jews and I will never understand it. I'm a Christian and you can't get any more Jewish than Jesus the Christ. I love to throw that in people's face when they start bad mouthing Jews. I tell them their savoir is very much a Jew. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Not meant to offend anyone

When my kids were in school and being picked on because of their religion, I told them a little poem my Grandfather told me:

Roses are reddish
Violets are blueish
If it wasn't for Jesus
You'd all be Jewish


Many of the kids that taunted them are still their best friends after 35 years!
 
Old 02-22-2015, 11:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jackmccullough View Post
There are only two possibilities here:

1. you don't know any liberals and know nothing about how liberals think, or
2. you have decided that the most effective way to advance your view in a political debate is to lie.

Which is it?
A third option could be that FOX is the one channel he gets
 
Old 02-22-2015, 11:20 PM
 
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To be honest, it does seem like most people have something negative to say about Jews across all ethnic lines. It just seem ok to hate Jews or make negative comments about Jews and I will never understand it. I'm a Christian and you can't get any more Jewish than Jesus the Christ. I love to throw that in people's face when they start bad mouthing Jews. I tell them their savoir is very much a Jew. The hypocrisy is astounding.
My parents left Soviet Russia because of how bad the antisemitism there was. It was so bad, a bully actually broke both of my moms wrists in a fight when she was a kid. There's always antisemitism, and it sucks. When you break it down, the real culprit is religion. Religion in general (No specific one) is just dumb (Don't mean to offend anyone). It's divided us forever. Imagine how good the world would be if there was no religion. Just simply "cultures".

By cultures, I mean taking the God out of every religion, making religious books just story books, and making places of worship just get togethers. There would be no racism at all.

By the way, when I was a kid, I asked my mom why there was so much antisemitism. She replied "Because they're just jealous." Quote of my life.
 
Old 02-22-2015, 11:36 PM
 
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Hitler was as "liberal" as you can get. Supported unbridled government power, suppressed those that dissented, and attacked capitalism. Modern, revisionist history has liberals attempting to "repackage" the truth once again.

The OWM mobs seem a lot like the mindless syncopates that supported Hitler.
As much as I laughed at how wrong your post is, I'm going to educate you.

The definition of liberal and conservative change every generation. For example, in the south in the 1960s, one thing that defines a conservative was to be racist against African Americans. To be liberal then and there, you would be against racism.

Another example: In the 1700's, Americans who were for breaking away from England were the liberals. Those who wanted to stay with England were the conservatives.

The dictionary definition of liberal is: Modern, someone who takes up new ideas.
The dictionary definition of conservative: Old Fashioned, someone who holds on to old world ideas.

Now, to get to the part about Hitler being extremely left wing (Hilarious): Absolutely 100% not true. There was nothing liberal about Hitler what so ever. He and his Nazi party considered Germany a Christian country, and intended on keeping it that way (Reason for the holocaust) (One America News says the same thing about America being a Christian country and intending to keep it that way)
Saying that any country is a Christian country is definitely far right wing. Stop trying to push Hitler away from your side. We all know he was as right wing as possible.

Now, even though extreme forms of socialism is considered to be far left, it can also be bipartisan. Nazi Germany was a dictatorship, which meant that the government owned it, but Hitler still allowed non-Jewish businesses to stay open. It's hard to have large forms of capitalism in a dictatorship country, but it was still possible in Nazi Germany.

I hope I cleared up any confusion. And by the way, you might wanna lay off the Rush Limbaugh.
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