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In Washington, or at least the Puget Sound, if the police respond to a domestic violence call, they will confiscate any gun the people own, and it takes a court order to get them back. It has proven to reduce domestic violence deaths in the state.
Probably should just lock the people up as well and make them prove they are innocent while we are at it, if it saves one life it will be worth it.
LOL. A basic income would reduce crime by 40%, with domestic violence going down by even more.
I don't think any gun laws either more or less would change things much to be honest without either increasing deaths from guns, or violating our rights in horrific manners.
Pay people to not commit crimes . wow Ive heard it all now
these are all the result of years of abuse. it usually starts small, one parent hits the other in anger, and then suddenly realizes they did something to hurt their loved one, so they immediately and profusely apologize and promise it will never happen again. until the next time they get into an argument and then the abuse gets worse each time.
we live in a day in age where people are taught, TAUGHT mind you, that they dont have to put up with such abuse, and all they need do is tell the cop they need to get out of the house, and the cop is generally obligated to oblige them. but what happens is these untrained psychologists in blue uniforms decide that they want to try and keep the family unit together and not go through the paperwork(for which there is a ton of it) to remove someone from the home, so they just say dont do it again, record the promises, and leave.
you want to end domestic abuse? then deal with what ever the root cause is, not the symptoms. that is like curing the common cold by sitting in front of an open window soaking in a bath of ice water, because there is no cure for the common cold, but there is a cure for pneumonia.
the problem though is that the root cause is as varied as the people that have the problem, but it is mostly pent up anger at something in their life.
Probably should just lock the people up as well and make them prove they are innocent while we are at it, if it saves one life it will be worth it.
Why? That would be unnecessary. Washington has proven it reduces domestic violence deaths and it requires the people involved in the dispute to work out their differences in a civil manner. Though I am sure you would prefer a rise in domestic violence deaths to protect your precious guns.....
LOL. A basic income would reduce crime by 40%, with domestic violence going down by even more.
and you have proof to back this claim up? if so lets see it. and i mean real documented cases of where people were put on a basic income, and the rate at which they committed crimes went down by the specified amount.
we live in a day in age where people are taught, TAUGHT mind you, that they dont have to put up with such abuse, and all they need do is tell the cop they need to get out of the house, and the cop is generally obligated to oblige them. but what happens is these untrained psychologists in blue uniforms decide that they want to try and keep the family unit together and not go through the paperwork(for which there is a ton of it) to remove someone from the home, so they just say dont do it again, record the promises, and leave.
So are you saying that if folks are the subject of domestic violence, one of them should just get out of the house?
I understand the logic, but where are they supposed to go? What if they can't afford a new place? If there are kids or pets, do you take them or leave them? What if there's rent or a mortgage to pay -- who gets stuck with that?
and you have proof to back this claim up? if so lets see it. and i mean real documented cases of where people were put on a basic income, and the rate at which they committed crimes went down by the specified amount.
Sure. There you go. Sorry I was incorrect though, the reduction was slightly higher. And I will admit that I make the assumption that domestic violence would specifically benefit more, but thats based upon a personal observation that most arguments revolve around a lack of money.
If that isnt sufficient for you, might I suggest that doing a larger scale research project in the US would be beneficial.
Pay people to not commit crimes . wow Ive heard it all now
Please dont respond with a ignorant assumption. I made an observation. Im not advocating paying people to not commit crimes, however I am making the observation that a basic income that has a TON of other benefits also has this as a side effect.
Why? That would be unnecessary. Washington has proven it reduces domestic violence deaths and it requires the people involved in the dispute to work out their differences in a civil manner. Though I am sure you would prefer a rise in domestic violence deaths to protect your precious guns.....
I prefer due process.
How easily some give away freedom astonishes me sometimes.
So are you saying that if folks are the subject of domestic violence, one of them should just get out of the house?
I understand the logic, but where are they supposed to go? What if they can't afford a new place? If there are kids or pets, do you take them or leave them? What if there's rent or a mortgage to pay -- who gets stuck with that?
Many areas have women's shelters just for this, that is why I said earlier that many resources are available to women, not so much men.
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