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Old 02-28-2015, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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What's more important is that Hillary was NOT the one that went on TV that Sunday.
She was "too tired". IMHO Susan Rice was sent and would take any fallout (which she did later on).

Hillary distanced herself from Benghazi as much as she could with all those ailments and illnesses.

IMHO Benghazi was a CIA plan gone bad. They should have just admitted as much and moved on.
IMO the most important thing in the on going controversy is it wasn't a political call, Susan Rice reflected the opinion of the intelligence services at the time she spoke. I believe it was Petraues who said if it had been him on the Sunday shows he would have made the same points as Rice, because that was the current opinion of the intelligence agencies. The Senate Intelligence committee in their investigation dinged the agencies for how long (roughly 2 weeks) it took them to revise their positions.

The very first investigation, that of the ARB, dinged the State Department for not providing sufficient security for the facility.
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Old 02-28-2015, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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IMO the most important thing in the on going controversy is it wasn't a political call, Susan Rice reflected the opinion of the intelligence services at the time she spoke. I believe it was Petraues who said if it had been him on the Sunday shows he would have made the same points as Rice, because that was the current opinion of the intelligence agencies. The Senate Intelligence committee in their investigation dinged the agencies for how long (roughly 2 weeks) it took them to revise their positions.

The very first investigation, that of the ARB, dinged the State Department for not providing sufficient security for the facility.
Especially when other countries intelligence agencies were reporting this as a terrorist attack.

Benghazi was a CIA outpost so it was not up to the State Dept to provide security. It was up to the CIA to provide additional security.
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Old 02-28-2015, 05:41 PM
 
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What's more important is that Hillary was NOT the one that went on TV that Sunday.
She was "too tired". IMHO Susan Rice was sent and would take any fallout (which she did later on).

Hillary distanced herself from Benghazi as much as she could with all those ailments and illnesses.

IMHO Benghazi was a CIA plan gone bad. They should have just admitted as much and moved on.
Just come out and admit you were gun running out of the Embassy? Yes, that would have been nice but something they would unfortunately never do.
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Old 02-28-2015, 05:42 PM
 
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IMO the most important thing in the on going controversy is it wasn't a political call, Susan Rice reflected the opinion of the intelligence services at the time she spoke. I believe it was Petraues who said if it had been him on the Sunday shows he would have made the same points as Rice, because that was the current opinion of the intelligence agencies. The Senate Intelligence committee in their investigation dinged the agencies for how long (roughly 2 weeks) it took them to revise their positions.

The very first investigation, that of the ARB, dinged the State Department for not providing sufficient security for the facility.
It was the first attempted cover up by the "intelligence" community. The next one was "What difference does it make"?
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Old 02-28-2015, 10:34 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Just come out and admit you were gun running out of the Embassy? Yes, that would have been nice but something they would unfortunately never do.
What, you didn't believe the YouTube video excuse?
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Old 03-01-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: USA
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It was Susan Rice's basis because that is what the CIA was telling people.

From the CIA talking points.
"We believe based on currently available information that the attacks in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protest at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. Consulate and subsequently its annex."
Whether it was the CIA or Rice they are one in the same as they are all under the same administration. When our embassy was attacked on '9/11' of all dates and the current administration swears it was caused by a You Tube video it just shows how incompetent they are.
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Whether it was the CIA or Rice they are one in the same as they are all under the same administration. When our embassy was attacked on '9/11' of all dates and the current administration swears it was caused by a You Tube video it just shows how incompetent they are.
So around the world starting on 9/11/2012 and lasting about 2 weeks there were a series of attacks sometimes targeting US facilities. The majority of those attacks were linked to the video. In the case of Cairo on 9/11 there had been calls to demonstrate at the US embassy because of the video.

With all that going on the intelligence services were suppose to determine within 24 hours of the attack or within a week that the attack in Benghazi had nothing to do with the video. Particularly when the had intercepted communications between Jihadists in Cairo and Benghazi talking about what had just occurred in Cairo.

Most if not all the statements by the Administration about the video did not proclaim definitely that the attack in Benghazi was caused by the video. The accusation that they did is just political spin without foundation.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So around the world starting on 9/11/2012 and lasting about 2 weeks there were a series of attacks sometimes targeting US facilities. The majority of those attacks were linked to the video. In the case of Cairo on 9/11 there had been calls to demonstrate at the US embassy because of the video.

With all that going on the intelligence services were suppose to determine within 24 hours of the attack or within a week that the attack in Benghazi had nothing to do with the video. Particularly when the had intercepted communications between Jihadists in Cairo and Benghazi talking about what had just occurred in Cairo.

Most if not all the statements by the Administration about the video did not proclaim definitely that the attack in Benghazi was caused by the video. The accusation that they did is just political spin without foundation.

Other countries were able to do that but the US couldn't ?
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Other countries were able to do that but the US couldn't ?
Perhaps they were not privy to the same signal intelligence that the US had or many they just guessed better.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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Perhaps they were not privy to the same signal intelligence that the US had or many they just guessed better.
Well obviously the US was privy to the WRONG intelligence.
And it took 14 days for them to realize what the rest of the world already knew.
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