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Old 01-13-2008, 06:23 PM
 
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Many tire of your inability to actually refute arguments and your proclivity for posting only insults and personal attacks.
I can refute only arguments that are presented. Emotions and lamentations, I can't and don't dispute. There are those whose actual comprehension of Social Security, as one example, falls short of justifying anything approaching the degree of bravado they project over the issue. A few of these sorts have even come to interjecting attacks and insults into threads that I have not or not materially posted in. If you would wish to chastise some for being ill-mannered, I would suggest that you would better set your sights in a different direction...
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:24 PM
 
Location: On my way to FLA baby !!
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There IS a huge surplus...
Hillary is telling everyone is will be broken by 2012, is that a scare tactic or what?
Obama is saying the baby boomers will break the bank?

Where is the surplus? Do you have a link?

Not testing you at all, but I would like to see for sure if there is because everyone seems to think it is going broke and allot of older people are actually scared.

Not long ago someone said it is funded until 2027, now they say 2012?
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:35 PM
 
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There IS a huge surplus...
Up is down?

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 14 Jan 2008 at 01:33:10 AM GMT is:
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:36 PM
 
Location: On my way to FLA baby !!
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Up is down?

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 14 Jan 2008 at 01:33:10 AM GMT is:
Read again, they posted that there was a surplus in the SS fund.
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:38 PM
 
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Well, I'm sorry you are into the "it takes a village" concept.
I'm sorry that you think you can live in a village, deriving all the benefits thereof, while recognizing no personal obligation to support the village in return.

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I'm also very glad that I am not having to contribute to your social security. On the same token, you are not contributing to mine.
I will likely never bother to claim benefits. It's sort of a matching pledge I have with various undocumented workers of this area. If they, enjoying a standard of living that is signficantly below mine, can pay and pay and pay and then walk away from the benefits accrued, well, I can probably afford to do the same. As for you, I hope that your personal empire will be sufficient to see you through. But if it should all come tumbling down at some point, I and/or other villagers like me will be there -- out of pocket -- to help you pick up the pieces...
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:38 PM
 
Location: On my way to FLA baby !!
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Up is down?

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 14 Jan 2008 at 01:33:10 AM GMT is:
Anyone would be in this hole if you had Katrina, Wild Fires, 9/11, send money to several countries for their disasters and all the problems we have come across that takes money to fix.
There is no way we can balance our money when disasters hit over and over again and we continue to spend money on illegals and social welfare programs.
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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As for you, I hope that your personal empire will be sufficient to see you through. But if it should all come tumbling down at some point, I and/or other villagers like me will be there -- out of pocket -- to help you pick up the pieces...
Actually, you won't

As I do not "contribute" to SS, I can never recieve Social Security nor any of the other .... "ancillary" benefits.
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I'm sorry that you think you can live in a village, deriving all the benefits thereof, while recognizing no personal obligation to support the village in return.
Nope - I have no personal or impersonal obligation to support you or anyone else - Only myself and my family.

It is called "Personal Responsibility" - a term you Washington types know little about.
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:49 PM
 
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No, there is not
I guess that would depend on whether you consider $2.5 trillion to be huge or not...
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Old 01-13-2008, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Hillary is telling everyone is will be broken by 2012, is that a scare tactic or what?
Obama is saying the baby boomers will break the bank?

Where is the surplus? Do you have a link?

Not testing you at all, but I would like to see for sure if there is because everyone seems to think it is going broke and allot of older people are actually scared.

Not long ago someone said it is funded until 2027, now they say 2012?
This was already answered in Post #38, along with links to the sourced report. If you are in favor of or against Social Security, the fund is not in trouble, and a detailed analysis show this to be true.
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