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I think this is a very good 'Current Events' topic with all that's going on that shouldn't be as 'divisive' as some of the other topics. Hoping to start some good debate to see how people feel about the seat belt laws. With all of the corruption being highlighted currently in Law Enforcement, do you feel Police should be able to stop you for not wearing your seat belt alone?
Hell yes...
Seatbelt laws work... as have all the other active and passive safety innovations brought about... I'm not for driverless cars ... but that's another issue ...
And should I be able to stop for it... well the debate isn't with Leo... like all laws.. it's legislative. The cost to all of us for non seat belt use is huge... go research insurance industry stats... we pay for those that don't wear them and kill ..maim.. injure.. and create chaos for themselves and other innocent people.
Should a policeman be able to stop you for failing to wear one... you betcha.. and write the duckett is for failing to wear approved safety restraint .. it really should read.. I'm too stupid to be in public ticket... which is what many minor laws seem to be to me...
Duis routinely forget to put their seatbelts on...divided attention issue for being drunk or stoned.. so its a great reason to stop someone at two am leaving a bar... or stoner pad...don't you think?
All the corruption?.. you mean like the mayor of Baltimore telling the police to stand down.. that kind of corruption?... or people believing Darren Wilson was corrupt.. like you .. reaching faulty conclusions not based in fact .. that kind of corruption.?..if you want to ask simple questions and have quality debate then keep the thread clean... without predisposed agenda... unless you want it to go in many directions
I believe in seat belt laws, those things save lives. However, I believe it should be a secondary law, which means you can't be stopped for not wearing a seat belt alone.
No one likes being told what to do and it is sad that we need laws to dictate common sense. Wearing a seatbelt is common sense. In the event of an accident the belts work in conjunction with the airbags and they keep you from doing a face plant on the steering wheel or having your head go through the windshield. Belts can also keep you in the seat before the accident when you are jamming on the brakes or trying to avoid the crash. Belts also keep you restrained from being tossed about or out of the vehicle.
Belts are common sense just like turning your lights on in the dark or when the weather gets gloomy. Massachusetts just put in place a controversial law when your wipers are on your headlights need to be or you can get a fine and points on your insurance.
I don't think Police will waste their time pulling over people who are not wearing their belts unless kids are involved but if you get pulled over for something else and are not belted then you get a ticket for that too.
Seatbelt laws, headlight laws, cell phone laws are all part of the nanny state that is legislating common sense but too many people are stupid and sadly we need these laws to try and make the roads safer for all.
Hell yes...
Seatbelt laws work... as have all the other active and passive safety innovations brought about... I'm not for driverless cars ... but that's another issue ...
And should I be able to stop for it... well the debate isn't with Leo... like all laws.. it's legislative. The cost to all of us for non seat belt use is huge... go research insurance industry stats... we pay for those that don't wear them and kill ..maim.. injure.. and create chaos for themselves and other innocent people.
Should a policeman be able to stop you for failing to wear one... you betcha.. and write the duckett is for failing to wear approved safety restraint .. it really should read.. I'm too stupid to be in public ticket... which is what many minor laws seem to be to me...
Duis routinely forget to put their seatbelts on...divided attention issue for being drunk or stoned.. so its a great reason to stop someone at two am leaving a bar... or stoner pad...don't you think?
All the corruption?.. you mean like the mayor of Baltimore telling the police to stand down.. that kind of corruption?... or people believing Darren Wilson was corrupt.. like you .. reaching faulty conclusions not based in fact .. that kind of corruption.?..if you want to ask simple questions and have quality debate then keep the thread clean... without predisposed agenda... unless you want it to go in many directions
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd
No one likes being told what to do and it is sad that we need laws to dictate common sense. Wearing a seatbelt is common sense. In the event of an accident the belts work in conjunction with the airbags and they keep you from doing a face plant on the steering wheel or having your head go through the windshield. Belts can also keep you in the seat before the accident when you are jamming on the brakes or trying to avoid the crash. Belts also keep you restrained from being tossed about or out of the vehicle.
Belts are common sense just like turning your lights on in the dark or when the weather gets gloomy. Massachusetts just put in place a controversial law when your wipers are on your headlights need to be or you can get a fine and points on your insurance.
I don't think Police will waste their time pulling over people who are not wearing their belts unless kids are involved but if you get pulled over for something else and are not belted then you get a ticket for that too.
Seatbelt laws, headlight laws, cell phone laws are all part of the nanny state that is legislating common sense but too many people are stupid and sadly we need these laws to try and make the roads safer for all.
They should be optional and while I agree everyone should always wear them but for some reason I did not have mine on when I approached a toll booth going into a tunnel to NYC and I got a $130 ticket.
Motorcycles generally involved in accidents kill the operator... if they die... vehicles which are heavier and when involved in accidents with other drivers potentially seriously injure them.
As to seatbelts and airbags causing fatal or dehabilitating injuries... it does occur but risk vs reward vastly outweighs the risk
Primary law... as is in many states
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