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Old 05-25-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jazzarama View Post
Serino told the FBI he was pressured by members of the Sanford Police Department to file charges despite his own belief that there wasn't enough evidence.

Maybe the Lake Mary PD is being pressured by the invisible hands of the Z family and their powerful allies to charge Apperson
You are joking, right? Who are these powerful allies of a retired magistrate from Virginia? Unless you know something the rest of us do not know I doubt they have enough pull to bump someone's dinner reservation.

 
Old 05-25-2015, 05:45 PM
 
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“Serino did not believe he had enough evidence at the time to file charges,” the FBI report continues.


LiveLeak.com - FBI: Investigator Pressured to File Charges Against Zimmerman

Serino believed that “when Zimmerman saw Martin in a hoody, Zimmerman took it upon himself to view Martin as acting suspicious [sic].” The homicide investigator described Zimmerman to the FBI investigators as “overzealous” and as “having a little hero complex,”


Serino told the FBI agents that he felt he knew Zimmerman “fairly well,” and that the 28-year-old neighborhood watch volunteer didn’t want to be a cop, “because cops have a bad reputation and are bullies, but he wants to be a judge.” He described Zimmerman as a “soft guy,” but added that his story about the shooting seemed “scripted,” as if he knew “the right things to say to the police” — including claiming self-defense, and telling officers he feared for his life in the confrontation with Martin.
This is what you wrote:

"Except the original lead homicide detective Chris Serino recommended slapping the shooter with manslaughter before it ever hit the air waves .."

His FBI interview gives the context of Why he asked for charges at that time. He may or may not have asked for charges in the future. Considering his testimony at the trial, I doubt he would have.
 
Old 05-25-2015, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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People seem to be confusing two different things: Just because George Zimmerman is sort of a jerk and a low-life does not mean he is guilty of murder. And just because he could probably have avoided the fatal final, physical confrontation doesn't mean he was guilty of murder either.

Let me spell this out for the hate-filled: Suppose I want to go into a convenience store to purchase something, and I see a dangerous-looking character loitering by the front door. Wisdom would dictate that I not exercise my right to go into that store, i.e., I would be wiser to retreat to my car. But suppose I am not wise and I try to enter the store and the other person attacks me physically and has me on the ground, but I succeed in pulling a weapon and killing him. It was self-defense on my part, not murder.

Zimmerman was guilty of a lack of wisdom, of a lack of good judgment, not of murder. This is not the same as claiming that Zimmerman is a good guy, or a role model, or a mature individual, because he is none of the above. I'm afraid some of the haters will not be able to grasp the difference.
 
Old 05-25-2015, 08:33 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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Fact is,haters,Zimmerman walked free and has never been convicted of any criminal offence.
Ever.
Although there have been plenty of complaints that have been dropped when the people making them suddenly realised they'd have to stand up to scrutiny in court - and tell the truth.
Bleeding heart liberals can whine as much as they want but as of this day Zimmerman remains a free man.
And rightly so considering the pathetic prosecution case and outrageous intervention from that jerk Obama, who has managed the impossible and become even more unpopular than Dubya.
Now I'm positive that you're just a troll.

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People seem to be confusing two different things: Just because George Zimmerman is sort of a jerk and a low-life does not mean he is guilty of murder. And just because he could probably have avoided the fatal final, physical confrontation doesn't mean he was guilty of murder either.
Let me spell this out for the hate-filled: Suppose I want to go into a convenience store to purchase something, and I see a dangerous-looking character loitering by the front door. Wisdom would dictate that I not exercise my right to go into that store, i.e., I would be wiser to retreat to my car. But suppose I am not wise and I try to enter the store and the other person attacks me physically and has me on the ground, but I succeed in pulling a weapon and killing him. It was self-defense on my part, not murder.
Zimmerman was guilty of a lack of wisdom, of a lack of good judgment, not of murder. This is not the same as claiming that Zimmerman is a good guy, or a role model, or a mature individual, because he is none of the above. I'm afraid some of the haters will not be able to grasp the difference.
This is a deeply flawed analogy. Zimmerman, or you in this analogy, was the thug. His victim was simply walking home after buying some snacks and Zimmerman stalked him before shooting him to death.
 
Old 05-26-2015, 12:53 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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Now I'm positive that you're just a troll.

This is a deeply flawed analogy. Zimmerman, or you in this analogy, was the thug. His victim was simply walking home after buying some snacks and Zimmerman stalked him before shooting him to death.
Yes, yes, yes!!
 
Old 05-26-2015, 01:36 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Escort Rider View Post
People seem to be confusing two different things: Just because George Zimmerman is sort of a jerk and a low-life does not mean he is guilty of murder. And just because he could probably have avoided the fatal final, physical confrontation doesn't mean he was guilty of murder either.

Let me spell this out for the hate-filled: Suppose I want to go into a convenience store to purchase something, and I see a dangerous-looking character loitering by the front door. Wisdom would dictate that I not exercise my right to go into that store, i.e., I would be wiser to retreat to my car. But suppose I am not wise and I try to enter the store and the other person attacks me physically and has me on the ground, but I succeed in pulling a weapon and killing him. It was self-defense on my part, not murder.

Zimmerman was guilty of a lack of wisdom, of a lack of good judgment, not of murder. This is not the same as claiming that Zimmerman is a good guy, or a role model, or a mature individual, because he is none of the above. I'm afraid some of the haters will not be able to grasp the difference.
Absolutely correct.
Those rather desperate haters on here will continue to stamp their feet and whine in frustration but the inescapable fact is that the prosecution failed to prove a successful case against Zimmerman.
You may not like him but that doesn't mean he deserves any less fair treatment in the justice system than anyone else.
Zimmerman is a sad case but I don't believe he's a bad case and considering the huge amount of pressure both mental and financial he's been under since the trial I think he's acquitted himself okay.He's certainly avoided many offers to cash in on his notoriety.
Leave the guy alone to try to pick up the pieces of his life.
 
Old 05-26-2015, 03:29 AM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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This is a deeply flawed analogy. Zimmerman, or you in this analogy, was the thug. His victim was simply walking home after buying some snacks and Zimmerman stalked him before shooting him to death.
I thought this was interesting.

Press Perpetuates 'Iced Tea' Myth in Coverage of Zimmerman Verdict and Trayvon Martin Demonstrations

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Because if you take Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail, a bag of Skittles, and add simple cough syrup, you get a cheap, codeine-based drink called "lean."

Now there's an entire online subculture devoted to the use of "lean," which Trayvon was familiar with.


We have screen grabs of him trying to score some codeine online, and instead being told he could make some "fire-ass lean" using cough syrup, skittles, and Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail.
Seems a bit of a coincidence to me that the only two items he picked up out of the entire 7-11 were two-thirds of the ingredients needed to make "lean."
 
Old 05-26-2015, 05:53 AM
 
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Absolutely correct.
Those rather desperate haters on here will continue to stamp their feet and whine in frustration but the inescapable fact is that the prosecution failed to prove a successful case against Zimmerman.
You may not like him but that doesn't mean he deserves any less fair treatment in the justice system than anyone else.
Zimmerman is a sad case but I don't believe he's a bad case and considering the huge amount of pressure both mental and financial he's been under since the trial I think he's acquitted himself okay.He's certainly avoided many offers to cash in on his notoriety.
Leave the guy alone to try to pick up the pieces of his life.
BBM

or the State did prove their case and the jurors just didn't do their due diligence. Have you heard B37s justifications?

The DNA evidence or lack of DNA evidence where it should have been with GZ's outrageous delusional head beaten on the concrete or punched in this face. TM would have had to hold onto that head in order to accomplish that fete, yet the absence of GZ DNA on TM hands tell the truth.

Her justifications/rationalizations should have convicted this beast. He is a menace to society who thinks he is above any laws.

His day will come, is my belief.

Last edited by Amythyst; 05-26-2015 at 05:53 AM.. Reason: added bolded portion
 
Old 05-26-2015, 06:42 AM
 
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BBM

or the State did prove their case and the jurors just didn't do their due diligence. Have you heard B37s justifications?

The DNA evidence or lack of DNA evidence where it should have been with GZ's outrageous delusional head beaten on the concrete or punched in this face. TM would have had to hold onto that head in order to accomplish that fete, yet the absence of GZ DNA on TM hands tell the truth.

Her justifications/rationalizations should have convicted this beast. He is a menace to society who thinks he is above any laws.

His day will come, is my belief.
You are,my friend,clutching at straws.
You need to try to get over the fact that an innocent man walked free otherwise it will chew you up inside.
 
Old 05-26-2015, 06:45 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Amythyst View Post
BBM

or the State did prove their case and the jurors just didn't do their due diligence. Have you heard B37s justifications?

The DNA evidence or lack of DNA evidence where it should have been with GZ's outrageous delusional head beaten on the concrete or punched in this face. TM would have had to hold onto that head in order to accomplish that fete, yet the absence of GZ DNA on TM hands tell the truth.

Her justifications/rationalizations should have convicted this beast. He is a menace to society who thinks he is above any laws.

His day will come, is my belief.
I agree, Amythyst!!

GZ's behavior is that of a guilty man. He knows he murdered that young man. He continues to act out and get in trouble because he knows he BELONGS in PRISON!!
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