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That is certainly true. ISIS communications are expertly and very totally spoofed. If any really were sourced out of Tel Aviv, do you think Israel doesn't have experts enough to detect that and neutralize them? Or are you alleging that ISIS is an Israeli plot?
Yes he is trying to say Israel is behind ISIS as we been hearing for sometime now from people.
If that is true, then the only sensible option is to remove Pakistan's nuclear arsenal (by force, if necessary) before ISIS can gain control of it.
However, like a lot of silly threats ISIS makes, I wouldn't take this one too seriously. Their primary aim is to terrify the West, and they just accomplished said goal by spreading a single unsubstantiated rumour.
We can't remove the nukes from North Korea can we?
Tens of thousands of Iraqis didn't take ISIS seriously either.
We didn't take ISIS seriously, now look. Just when do we take things seriously, when the CIA puts out bad info? Yes, that must be it. Lets wait until someone tells you to take things seriously.
Actually the ISIS communication emanating form Tel Aviv is just that a rumor. There is zero proof of it actually being true as many stories has stated. You shouldn't pass off things as fact when it is not.
There are countless reports claiming every government under the Sun is assisting or directing ISIS. So yes it is a rumor. The press you are referring to is not Israeli press as it appears in Israeli newspaper as quoting other news. Like I said we have all seen the sam eold stories for years.
The ISIS in Syria is the same group in Iraq.
It's not a rumor. It was also addressed by Britain's version of the NSA, GCHG.
They are not rumors. Israeli press has also reiterated UN reports which consolidated field reports of Israel assisting the terrorists in Syria.
The absence of an incident report in the US press doesn't automatically make it a rumor. Many of the reports of ISIS activity have turned out to be disinformation in the form of youtube and news articles. They're often sourced to a single entity based in the UK which appears to be funded by the government.
The ISIS in Syria is not the same group as those fighting in Iraq. There are many different groups fighting against the government in Iraq. There were the groups led by the former Baathist military leaders under Saddam Hussein, some of whom appear to have been provided sanctuary in Qatar until recently. There were the groups led by insurgents who were freed from the mega-prisons in Iraq and who fought in the insurgency in 2004-2007. There are also the 50-odd Sunni tribes who've risen up against Baghdad.
It's not a rumor. It was also addressed by Britain's version of the NSA, GCHG.
They are not rumors. Israeli press has also reiterated UN reports which consolidated field reports of Israel assisting the terrorists in Syria.
It is a rumor as it is unverified. Do you not know what a rumor means?
"All of of the communications from the ISIS beheader Jihadi John have been found to have originated from Tel Aviv, Israel. The company that distributes all of their videos is based in Tel Aviv as well."
It was you that said this and presented it as fact.
It is also widely believed that Emwazi played a leading role in the jihadis’ IT security, which has been able to disguise the origins of all communications between Isis leaders in Raqqa and governments, or envoys, handling hostage negotiations.
Both GCHQ and the NSA have been unable to penetrate the digital security network. When they have tried, communications from the group had been masked to appear as though they originated in Tel Aviv. It is believed that Emwazi’s activities were largely confined to the area near Raqqa. He has not been injured during the US-led air campaign.
The absence of an incident report in the US press doesn't automatically make it a rumor. Many of the reports of ISIS activity have turned out to be disinformation in the form of youtube and news articles. They're often sourced to a single entity based in the UK which appears to be funded by the government.
Absence of an incident report in the US press? Who said anything about it having to appear in the US press? As I said you are passing off things as fact.
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The ISIS in Syria is not the same group as those fighting in Iraq. There are many different groups fighting against the government in Iraq. There were the groups led by the former Baathist military leaders under Saddam Hussein, some of whom appear to have been provided sanctuary in Qatar until recently. There were the groups led by insurgents who were freed from the mega-prisons in Iraq and who fought in the insurgency in 2004-2007. There are also the 50-odd Sunni tribes who've risen up against Baghdad.
ISIS in Syria is the same ISIS in Iraq as they did spread from Syria in the fighting. We are not talking about the other groups. We are talking about ISIS.
"ISIS swept from Syria into northern Iraq, the Kurdish area. ... It all came to a head as the group approached the city of Irbil ... the regional capital in northern Iraq."
Lets see, North Korea has virtually no food, no industry, no commerce, no freedom, no communications, no stable economy but...
it has the bomb.
ISIS has food, has captured industries, engages in commerce across country borders, has excellent communications, seems to increase the size of its land holdings daily and yet...
there are those who say they can't, won't and aren't serious about getting the bomb.
ISIS is a serious threat to the region because they are very clever and tough fighters, possibly the toughest and most motivated fighters yet to emerge in the Arab world. American special forces in the region have observed that ISIS uses the most up-to-date and sophisticated operations manuals. ISIS is realistic and pragmatic and a military defeat to them merely means a strategic withdrawal and a plan to win another day.
These people are playing for keeps, they have a powerful ideology that is attracting fresh recruits from all over the world, and they have a realistic game plan. Possessing nukes would fit into that game plan, naturally. Everyone wants nukes. It would make them literally unstoppable.
Would Saudi Arabia move against ISIS if that group was known to have smuggled a nuke into Riyadh? Would the Egyptians want to get involved if radical agents were thought to have brought a nuke into Cairo? What if ISIS declared that it had floated a nuke into New York Harbor and smuggled it ashore? Or Paris, or London? Just the rumors combined with some evidence that they possessed the technology would be enough to cause global panic and possibly bring about a world economic meltdown as millions flee the cities.
In my opinion, ISIS should be vigorously pursued and killed to the last man. We can't afford to let these crazies operate freely. It was a huge mistake to evacuate Iraq in 2011 before it was truly stable. It was a huge mistake to assume the incompetent, corrupt Shi'ite government would be nice to the Sunni tribes who are now flipping their loyalty to ISIS because there's no other choice. It's also a huge mistake to be making nice to the Iranians right at the moment when the Arab oil states need our support against ISIS.
The current Administration is a lost cause, but one hopes that the next one is a bit more pragmatic and reverses some of these dangerous policies. Letting Iran keep its nuke tech is scaring the Saudis and Egyptians into buying reactors of their own. Once this genie's out of the bottle, there's no putting it back.
The entire notion is a joke. Pakistan will not sell to them - they have a very robust C&C system. No one will sell nukes as such. Pak's C&C system is regarded as more advanced than numerous others - a simple google search will show expert opinion.
Even the idiots radicals say such a notion is 'far fetched'.
This is not a realistic concern.
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