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Old 06-05-2015, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Yeah, that sounds like a personal problem to me on your part. I couldn't care less whether an employee in a store wears a scarf for religious reasons or because they are trying to be fashionable, just give me some good service and we'll get along fine.
You clearly don't understand business and especially sales. The product includes the salesperson. It may not consciously affect you personally, but I can assure you it does affect sales.

 
Old 06-05-2015, 05:49 AM
 
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Take it all the way to the Supreme Court, I'm sure trying to justify legalized bigotry against one whole segment of the population will be a winning argument for you.
So now YOU get to decide what is bigotry? Who gave you that job?

And BTW, we are discussing what is right, not what the Supreme Court has ruled. A SC ruling does not make it right, it just makes it the law.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So now YOU get to decide what is bigotry? Who gave you that job?

And BTW, we are discussing what is right, not what the Supreme Court has ruled. A SC ruling does not make it right, it just makes it the law.
The supreme court decision is about fairness, tell me how you would rewrite the civil rights act to make it "right".
 
Old 06-05-2015, 06:38 AM
 
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I might be more impressed with these pleas for acceptance and inclusion if Muslim countries and the Muslim religion embraced religious diversity, gender equality, etc.
So the standard for the United States is based upon what other countries do, interesting.

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Only naive liberal and left-wing Americans would feel sorry for Muslims not being allowed to do things that Muslims themselves would NEVER allow other people to do (practice a different religion, dress scantily) if they were running the show -- LOL.
Apparently only "naive" liberals and left-wing Americans would feel sorry for Americans not being allowed to do what Americans have a right to do, enjoy equality under the law.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 05:12 PM
 
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Oh great, now A&F will have it's employee dress code dictated by a 7th century philosophy that reveres a pedophile who thought that anyone who didn't worship him should be murdered.

What's next? When do we stop "accommodating" a vile 7th century philosophy that subjugates women for the benefit of their male masters? Everyone on this board who is defending her "religious freedom" really needs to get a clue. The dress code in Islam is about controlling women and ensuring that they stay in their place. Notice that there aren't any similar requirements for the men...

Those of you defending Islam in this thread really should spend some time living in Muslim countries and see just how badly the women are abused in EVERY one of them. And in case you're not paying attention, they are importing their beliefs and practices to our country now. Almost every immigrant wave of the past adopted American values and culture after moving here. The Muslims not so much.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 10:36 PM
 
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The supreme court decision is about fairness, tell me how you would rewrite the civil rights act to make it "right".
I'd get rid of it.

We already have a Bill of Rights that applies to all legal U.S. citizens in this country.

There is no reason to single out race, creed, color, religion, sexual orientation, age, disability or anything else.

The only other change I'd make is to exclude Muslims from the First Amendment, for reasons I've already given.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 10:42 PM
 
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So the standard for the United States is based upon what other countries do, interesting.
No, my whole point is that our standard is NOT based on what other countries -- especially Muslim countries -- do.

So when Muslims come here, they must either follow the precept, "When in Rome do as the Romans do," and give up their aggressive and intolerant religion, or be thrown out.

Since it is impossible for them embrace religious diversity and gender equality -- among other things -- and still follow their religion, they have to go.

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Apparently only "naive" liberals and left-wing Americans would feel sorry for Americans not being allowed to do what Americans have a right to do, enjoy equality under the law.
There is no way any Muslim should ever have been allowed to become an American citizen.

Islam -- I will say it again -- requires its adherents to kill, convert, or subjugate and tax all non-Muslims.

I find it hilarious that liberals -- who will express outrage because an American, non-Muslim man is slightly sexist towards a woman or a Christian baker refuses to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple -- go out of their way to defend a religion that still sanctions the stoning of women, the death sentence for gays and apostates, and Jihad against all who are not Muslim. Hilarious indeed.

But also disturbing.

Liberals just love bad and evil things -- as long as those things can be considered opposed to white males, Americans, Israel, Western Civilization and Christianity.

So much for liberal "principles," which are based on hypocrisy, hate and bigotry.

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Old 06-06-2015, 05:23 AM
 
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I'd get rid of it.

We already have a Bill of Rights that applies to all legal U.S. citizens in this country.

There is no reason to single out race, creed, color, religion, sexual orientation, age, disability or anything else.

The only other change I'd make is to exclude Muslims from the First Amendment, for reasons I've already given.
Why would you remove the right to free speech from someone like Mohammed Ali? Why would you remove the right to practice ones religion from someone like Kareem Abdul Jabbar?
 
Old 06-06-2015, 05:24 AM
 
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There is no way any Muslim should ever have been allowed to become an American citizen.
Many were citizens long before they became Muslims.
 
Old 06-06-2015, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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The supreme court decision is about fairness, tell me how you would rewrite the civil rights act to make it "right".
Regarding the topic of this thread, I would be sure that employers have the right to determine dress codes for whatever reason they choose.

That's fairness.
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