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Old 06-09-2015, 10:27 PM
 
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Oh believe me, when you couldn't handle what needed done, you called people like me stat.
So what did you do? And wth did you work that you thought hospitals and caring for the sick was about profit. And favors? You are whacked.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:30 PM
 
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I guess I'm just interested to know how you would regulate your stoppage of work at the higher tax rate? I'm trying to picture situations in which this would even be possible, and I'm just not coming up with any. I mean, when do you just tell customers or clients that that's it, we've reached our top income bracket?
Well that depends on the situation. In business, if you are holding pretty steady you don't invest to grow, it doesn't make sense to throw your money into something you won't benefit from because the government is going to take it.

Lets say you have money and you could choose between investing (your money) but the result is that of the profit you get to keep only 10% would you?
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:34 PM
 
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So what did you do? And wth did you work that you thought hospitals and caring for the sick was about profit. And favors? You are whacked.
Hey I'm not the one that started posting like she was a Florance Nightingale. That was you.

You do realize that there are for profit hospitals right or are you that naive?
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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You poor selfish person. Being so cynical is no way to live. So you'd quit working if you couldn't take it all. Not everyone is a scrooge though. I just hope you don't die alone.
You know, I hate to get personal in any sort of debate, because people tend to close off even more than they normally do when confronted with ideas contrary to their beliefs. But in this case, I'll express a little frustration. It does seem to me that many of the more conservative folks in the US are defending a position of ultimate selfishness and have a complete lack of social responsibility.

I believe it is a consequence of allowing huge corporations to dictate politics, trade, and advertising in the US for multiple generations now.

Many of these people will never be able to believe that anything other than working their fingers to the bone for their employers while sacrificing all other aspects of their lives in order to achieve monetary wealth is anything other than the proper order of things.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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Well that depends on the situation. In business, if you are holding pretty steady you don't invest to grow, it doesn't make sense to throw your money into something you won't benefit from because the government is going to take it.

Lets say you have money and you could choose between investing (your money) but the result is that of the profit you get to keep only 10% would you?
If monetary gain was my only goal in life, I wouldn't.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:39 PM
 
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You know, I hate to get personal in any sort of debate, because people tend to close off even more than they normally do when confronted with ideas contrary to their beliefs. But in this case, I'll express a little frustration. It does seem to me that many of the more conservative folks in the US are defending a position of ultimate selfishness and have a complete lack of social responsibility.

I believe it is a consequence of allowing huge corporations to dictate politics, trade, and advertising in the US for multiple generations now.

Many of these people will never be able to believe that anything other than working their fingers to the bone for their employers while sacrificing all other aspects of their lives in order to achieve monetary wealth is anything other than the proper order of things.
Social responsibility? If I wanted a bunch of children that never grew up.... Social responsibility in your mind is gimme what you got.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:42 PM
 
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Hey I'm not the one that started posting like she was a Florance Nightingale. That was you.

You do realize that there are for profit hospitals right or are you that naive?
Yep. And they are not doing well. BTW, I said I was a nurse. I never claimed to be a hero. Why are you jealous of nurses? The resentment is rather strange.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:43 PM
 
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If monetary gain was my only goal in life, I wouldn't.
It's not monetary gain for the sake of it, it's being able to keep enough to buy freedom from the rat race. If government keeps taking and taking it makes it harder to accumulate enough. Hey, if you want to give your money away, be my guest, I don't mind paying taxes but I do mind paying other people's share.

If you don't understand that much then you're doomed to a life of economic slavery.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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Social responsibility? If I wanted a bunch of children that never grew up.... Social responsibility in your mind is gimme what you got.
No, it's not. It's a realization that there is no real class mobility in the United States, and that we have much opportunity to give all human beings, which I consider to be inherently equal, a chance to lead a comfortable and prosperous life in America today.

Please take the 6 minutes to watch the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:45 PM
 
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Yep. And they are not doing well. BTW, I said I was a nurse. I never claimed to be a hero. Why are you jealous of nurses? The resentment is rather strange.
LOL, sure read below. You sure were puffing your chest out. Now how can I be jealous of nurses, really? Really? And you said you would go crazy if you don't work? That's a sign that you need to get a life. Then again, people who work in healthcare, it's hard to have a life working those shift but at least try.

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You just don't understand health care workers, police officers, teachers, firefighters, clergy, or social workers I guess.
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but my work is a vital sign (no pun intended) of a quality society.
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What else is one going to do? I've found that if I don't work, I will go crazy.
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