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Old 06-09-2015, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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Could Obama's healthcare be gone?


Three weeks before an expected Supreme Court ruling that could strike down Obamacare subsidies for 6.4 million Americans, President Barack Obama and Republican foes began to blame each other for the possible damage.

Read more: Obama and GOP amp up rhetoric as Supreme Court nears Obamacare decision - Jennifer Haberkorn and Sarah Wheaton - POLITICO

So, who will this effect: Mostly the states who don't have the healthcare exchange.
Here is a map...
If Supreme Court rules against Obamacare, few states are ready for the fallout - LA Times
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If the supremes trash the ACA, it'll go worse for the Pubs than for the Dems. Accordingly, this GOP majority court will not overturn it.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:24 PM
 
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If the supremes trash the ACA, it'll go worse for the Pubs than for the Dems. Accordingly, this GOP majority court will not overturn it.
Yea, that'a pretty much what I was thinking. How could they take this opportunity when the backlash would be so bad.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Carmichael, CA
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The Democrats specifically wrote the bill to only allow subsidies in states with the exchanges--to force the states to participate whether they could afford to or not.

The Democrats (and the President) then did this weird--and probably not legal--end run to allow people in all states to get the subsidies even though that's not how the law was passed.

But if the law--as written--is upheld by the Court, it will be the Republicans fault?

If it's not upheld, what do the Democrats plan to do to fix their law?
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Could Obama's healthcare be gone?


Three weeks before an expected Supreme Court ruling that could strike down Obamacare subsidies for 6.4 million Americans, President Barack Obama and Republican foes began to blame each other for the possible damage.

Read more: Obama and GOP amp up rhetoric as Supreme Court nears Obamacare decision - Jennifer Haberkorn and Sarah Wheaton - POLITICO

So, who will this effect: Mostly the states who don't have the healthcare exchange.
Here is a map...
If Supreme Court rules against Obamacare, few states are ready for the fallout - LA Times

I liked when BHO used the term "If SCOTUS rules against the government".
SCOTUS is one of the three branches of government, Mr President.
SCOTUS is ruling against the executive branch, balance of powers in action. Most people have either forgotten why there are three branches of government or are totally ignorant of the fact.
The legislative and judicial branches need to get the executive back in line for they allowed it to go mad with power.

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Old 06-09-2015, 10:40 PM
 
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The Democrats specifically wrote the bill to only allow subsidies in states with the exchanges--to force the states to participate whether they could afford to or not.

The Democrats (and the President) then did this weird--and probably not legal--end run to allow people in all states to get the subsidies even though that's not how the law was passed.

But if the law--as written--is upheld by the Court, it will be the Republicans fault?

If it's not upheld, what do the Democrats plan to do to fix their law?
I doubt they will do anything to fix this mess, but, the republicans are in a tough spot as well. I hate them all personally. I think less is more.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:44 PM
 
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If they rule against it (they won't), how are the republicans, who tried to stop this fiasco passed in the dead of night, responsible. No, the mess is all yours, dems, all yours.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:52 PM
 
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If they rule against it (they won't), how are the republicans, who tried to stop this fiasco passed in the dead of night, responsible. No, the mess is all yours, dems, all yours.
You are not seeing the forest for the trees. The VOCAL Republican's were against it. The health insurance companies are all run by Republicans even in MA.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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If they rule against it (they won't), how are the republicans, who tried to stop this fiasco passed in the dead of night, responsible. No, the mess is all yours, dems, all yours.
That's the thing, they won't. I almost wish they would but I don't want anyone to suffer. I wish it never passed in the first place. I think it's been a disaster from the get go personally. I've had a terrible time with it. But......so many people are relying on those checks to help them afford this sheet that if it falls down from this point it will indeed be staggering.
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Old 06-09-2015, 10:55 PM
 
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You are not seeing the forest for the trees. The VOCAL Republican's were against it. The health insurance companies are all run by Republicans even in MA.
I'm not sure what the insurance companies will do if over half of their participants drop out over night. I don't see how they can handle it.
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