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Most of the Japanese US Citizins lost there homes and businesses and didn't get them back. There were no reported cases of treason or acts of sabatoge by any japanese in america. Just one of few cases of real racism and other groups benefiting from racist actions of the past. Wonder who got all the homes and land etc?
This is true.
But today, Japanese American's media income is equal to, if not greater than, white median income.
If black minorities are behind today, it isn't because of the misdeeds of 150 years ago.
You have to take personal responsibility at some point.
Your way of thinking is the central problem with people who support the Conservative party.
The current lot of whites in this country is the result of the great evil that was slavery, where an entire race was persecuted and decimated for economic gain. It's called "unearned privilege", an advantage simply by having white skin. I encourage you to do some research. The hierarchy that emerged from slavery, with whites at the top and blacks at the bottom, is still perpetuated by those who support the Conservative party, the party of Dixie. THIS is how it applies today.
NO other race has ever been asked to endure the level of discrimination, harmful treatment, and lack of consideration that black people have endured. Asking these proud, gifted, dignified, incredible people of great depth to start from a lesser place from the moment they are born, is bound to cause some problems within the race, spanning generations. They simply are given less consideration than any other race. This ultimately is a reflection on the greatest flaw of this society: tolerating bigotry and continued Dixie-think by a segment of this country comprised of people supporting Conservative causes.
Rather than blaming these problems on some trait of blacks themselves, this flaw in our society IS the problem, whether you care to acknowledge that or not.
As a Bostonian of Irish descent I take issue with what you say here. When the Irish arrived in my city they were crapped on and kept at the lowest level possible by the ruling anglo society of the time.
Rather than blaming these problems on some trait of blacks themselves, this flaw in our society IS the problem, whether you care to acknowledge that or not.
The flaw is the thinking that one race is significantly "less than" due to things that are out of their control.
And believe me, I'm not the one that thinks that - and I would be labeled a Conservative.
Native Americans and Dems should replace all on our currency
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Originally Posted by cb73
I love history and old history books. But this current thing of taking something that happened in the past and rewriting it to fit today's agenda makes me crazy.
Andrew Jackson certainly wasn't perfect, but neither should his whole life be relegated to a two-second sound byte. Read an entire biography of him--and the times he lived in--and you'll see he did the best he could at the time.
On the other hand, one of the "heroes" that people were voting on for the new $20 benefitted greatly from her whole history being rewritten by feminists who've effectively swept under the carpet all the things that didn't fit how they want to portray her. So I guess it goes both ways.
Any person who who existed at the time of slavery or the slaughtering of the great native American does NOT belong on any of our currency. We are more advanced now, and greater people exist, those who better represent what this country should be about. None of these more modern people are Republicans or Conservatives either. Bigots don't belong on our currency.
I say replace all of these ignorant men, with Native Americans and Democrats (eg. H. Tubman, MLK, JFK, RFK, Obama).
Any person who who existed at the time of slavery or the slaughtering of the great native American does NOT belong on any of our currency. We are more advanced now, and greater people exist, those who better represent what this country should be about. None of these more modern people are Republicans or Conservatives either. Bigots don't belong on our currency.
I say replace all of these ignorant men, with Native Americans and Democrats (eg. H. Tubman, MLK, JFK, RFK, Obama).
Its funny because past history isnt past history. So how can you close the past on things when there are currently groups of people benefiting from bad deeds of the past? Please how do you justify closing the doors on slavery or the genacide of the native americans or the native hawaiians when in current times these groups are far behind in most areas economically, educationally and poorest etc etc? Just like they were generations ago?
Yes, key words are "Just like they were generations ago" so, nothing has changed for them as individuals even though the times have changed. Many in these groups and other ethnic groups have progressed in life by leaps and bounds. Wonder why that is since all of those you listed are decendants of that past and are now living in the era of freedom and opportunity. Does this not tell you that the "welfare" idea of "give them ..." does not work? Of those 3 ethnic groups listed, how many of them have taken advantage of the different times and have melded into society and taken the responsibility for themselves and made a good life. Seems we don't differentiate between those that take responsibility for themselves and those that don't.
Huh how do you figure that my friend? Are you aware today that there are native american tribes that dont know their languages or culture because native american languages or culture was outlawed was outlawed by people like andrew jackson.
They were outlawed after the Indian wars and only in public. And due to the violent nature of those wars it can be understood why there was a desire to curtail them in public. The same as their languages were not used in schools. They were free to speak them outside of schools however. As children began to speak more English they were less apt to learn and pass on their ancestral languages. You see the same thing in this Country. Just how many third and fourth generation Americans can speak Gaelic, Italian, or German? The public restrictions didn't stop them from passing down either culture or language in private. I mean the Jews had very extreme restrictions for millennia. Did Hebrew or their customs disappear? It has more to do with the lack of desire of younger generations to carry it on than anything.
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Originally Posted by hawaiian by heart
Did you know that out of the approx 500 native american tribe treaties made with America that approx 480 were not honored. Do you think as a people that if america honored all the treaties that these people would be living better? Not on alot of indian rezs that make the gettos of LA and Detriot look like middle class suburbs?
Yeah, because the Native Americans were living quite an advanced lifestyle when the settlers penetrated their frontier and all . The fact is that while what the government did to them sucks broken treaties from 1842 aren't the reason they have issues today.
the vast majority of which were actually American citizens, were rounded up and shipped eventually to internment camps. These consisted of poorly-constructed barracks surrounded by barbed wire, sentry posts and armed guards.
They were put in these camps, not because they had been tried and found guilty of something, but because either they or their parents or ancestors were from Japan and, as such, they were deemed a "threat" to national security. They were also easily identifiable due to their race. There was no similar large-scale roundups of German or Italian-Americans, even though we were also fighting them during World War
Most of the Japanese US Citizins lost there homes and businesses and didn't get them back. There were no reported cases of treason or acts of sabatoge by any japanese in america. Just one of few cases of real racism and other groups benefiting from racist actions of the past. Wonder who got all the homes and land etc?
This has been going on throughout 1000's of years of history. Most recent...actually at the same time you are using as justification for your position, think about all the "white" jews in Germany who had businesses confiscated, who were herded together, jammed in train box cars, unloaded in concentration camps and millions shot/gassed/etc. Ghengis Khan killed every human no matter what color he came across on his horrific purge as he brought his Army south through several countries. No, you have no platform to try to justify your position trying to use history.
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