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The funny thing is lily is that northerners talk s*** about the south, but yet they sure love vacationing down there or relocating down there to places like Florida, Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina...ect.... In fact 2 of the 3 most populous states Texas (2) and Florida (3 as it recently passed up New York) are in the south. North Carolina and Georgia in the next 15 to 20 years will more than likely pass my state of Ohio up which currently ranks 7th. Other states in the "south" such as Virginia, Tennessee, South Carolina, and Alabama are experience population growths, so obviously it can't be all that bad, if us northerners are moving down there.
The South has the highest population of any region of the US. And is the fastest growing region. The South now has almost as many people as the Northeast and Midwest combined, and if current trends hold up, it will soon pass up their combined population. Since 2000, the South has added more 19 million people, about the same as the whole rest of the country combined. When people bash the South, they need to remember that they are bashing almost 4 out of every 10 people in this country.
2014:
Northeast 56,152,333 17.6%
Midwest 67,745,108 21.2%
West 75,187,681 23.6%
South 119,771,934 37.6%
2000:
Northeast 53,666,295 19%
Midwest 64,491,431 22.9%
West 63,439,136 22.5%
South 100,565,549 35.6%
The only reason this is an issue right now is because the Democrats and the left want to stir up as much racial conflict and animosity as they can. This flag is being flown on a memorial in South Carolina and is not stopping us or anyone from getting past the race issue.
Clearly, the Democrats and the left do not want to get past the race issue, as their actions around this flag and many other episodes have routinely demonstrated.
LOL The flag doesn't make people racist, people make the flag racist, getting rid of the flag will not change racism one bit. The people crying over the flag are the people keeping racism alive and well.
There is no amount of "bringing up" race relations and racism that will do more harm to moving into a post-racial America than flying the banner of the most aggressively racist event in American history.
There is no letting the past die when large segments of America openly rally behind a symbol of a time of Black dehumanization.
All this talk about Obama or any public figure bringing up the historic mistreatment of Black Americans when when people, places, and symbols who's only relevance is related to the historic mistreatment of Black Americans get celebrated.
If America is really concerned about the President "fanning" racial animosity, then how about those same voices challenge who openly accepted the Confederate flag is in certain political circles.
Great post. Folks who support flying that disgraceful flag know what it means; they're simply in denial and refuse to accept it for what it is and until they do our country will never make the kind of racial progress that is so sorely needed. Seeing folks trying to defend the indefensible is painful to observe. Newsflash folks -- Racism is alive and well; its ugliness has many more ways from which to hide in the modern day.
Great post. Folks who support flying that disgraceful flag know what it means; they're simply in denial and refuse to accept it for what it is and until they do our country will never make the kind of racial progress that is so sorely needed. Seeing folks trying to defend the indefensible is painful to observe. Newsflash folks -- Racism is alive and well; its ugliness has many more ways from which to hide in the modern day.
Yes, once you put that piece of cloth away, racism will disappear.
The South has the highest population of any region of the US. And is the fastest growing region. The South now has almost as many people as the Northeast and Midwest combined, and if current trends hold up, it will soon pass up their combined population. Since 2000, the South has added more 19 million people, about the same as the whole rest of the country combined. When people bash the South, they need to remember that they are bashing almost 4 out of every 10 people in this country.
I'm pretty sure they are trying to get away from the high taxes, at least all the people I know that have left said that's why they were leaving. The problem is once the Northerners move to the South they tend to vote like they are still in the North creating the same problems they left behind.
I think you are probably right about "what these people want to do".
That being said, do you personally have a problem with the State of South Carolina removing the flag from it prominent position on state grounds right next to the capitol, in light of the fact that this flag has unfortunately been commandeered by white supremacist hate groups and is now associated with the confessed mass murderer, Dylann Roof?
I appreciate the objections you outlined in your post, but considering the rest of the story and what this symbol has in fact become to white supremacist hate groups - not ignoring it - you still object to the state removing it? Really?
This issue is very polarizing, and boy oh boy do the powers that be enjoy such things.
The greater issue here is lost in emotion. While the confederate battle flag represents to some people the ultimate symbol of racism, and justifiably so, (due to most people's poor education about the real motives of the civil war), the danger here is in reacting like children about it ... screaming bloody murder ... all knee jerk reactions to what a month ago was a non-issue on nobody's radar, but is now a matter brought to the top of everyone's agenda. It's crazy to allow the mass media to stir up such over the top emotion, and nobody seems to question why.
Frankly, the good old stars and stripes are an even bigger symbol of genocide, given the history of it, relative to the wholesale murder/eradication of native Americans by those very Union Soldiers people believe fought to free black slaves. If something doesn't seem to add up here, you may indeed be paying attention.
We cannot, and should not revise history by eliminating uncomfortable symbols of that history. The civil war was the bloodiest and most tragic event in American history, brother fighting against brother, and the devestation it caused so many, and particularly to those on the losing end in the south. What the Union did to those people is something no American should be deprived of knowledge, yet that will be the result, if we allow history to be erased, one symbol and one story at a time.
The flag is just a couple blue stripes with stars on a red background.
If you see racism in that, you can see racism in anything.
Should we stop advertising fried chicken in Detroit or Mayonnaise in Livonia because they could be considered by some to be racist?
It was the battle flag of people who betrayed their own country and fought against the United States of America to preserve a way of life that kept "black" humans as property instead of being treated as equal human beings, if you don't see racism inside the flag of that failed and sadistic country then you're blind.
It was the battle flag of people who betrayed their own country and fought against the United States of America to preserve a way of life that kept "black" humans as property instead of being treated as equal human beings, if you don't see racism inside the flag of that failed and sadistic country then you're blind.
Lincoln was going to let the South keep their slaves if they returned to the union and paid taxes.
Yes you answered a question with a question and i'm the one who has danced around it
Its a simple question, what's wrong with flying a piece of fabric?
It may be just a piece of fabric, but what it symbolizes is far more important.
You think it's okay for us to start waving the Nazi flag over some government buildings? Or should we hoist the Japanese Flag over Pearl Harbor? Or maybe the Soviet Flag should fly at our buildings?
The Confederate flag represents a 150 year old defeated nation who tried to defy the United States and lost. That flag belongs in a museum, I can care less if some trailer park hillbillies want to fly it from their front yard, but it doesn't belong anywhere else.
Lincoln didn't want the country to fall apart, it's been known that he wasn't exactly "anti-slavery", but seeing what he would have to become in order to defeat the south he changed his tune.
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