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Old 07-12-2015, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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So "it's only about the flag on public buildings" is it? Give them an inch and they take a mile.

Group calls for removal of Confederate monument in Seattle | Local & Regional | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News

For more than a century, Lake View Cemetery has been the final resting place for many of Seattle's pioneers.

"Just because it's a military memorial doesn't justify it," Charlette LaFevere says. "It's offensive."

LeFevere is part of a small group calling on Seattle City leaders to have the 89-year-old United Confederate Veterans Memorial taken down.


And yet they have no problem with a statue of mass killer, Lenin in Seattle.
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Old 07-12-2015, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Seattle Mayor Ed Murray doesn't like the monument, but says any sort of removal is out of his hands.

"Private property is private property," Murray tells KOMO News. "I support the First Amendment. I don't want it there, I don't like it, but I also don't believe it's the roll of government to tell people what to do with their private property."
I agree with the mayor.
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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So "it's only about the flag on public buildings" is it? Give them an inch and they take a mile.

Group calls for removal of Confederate monument in Seattle | Local & Regional | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News

For more than a century, Lake View Cemetery has been the final resting place for many of Seattle's pioneers.

"Just because it's a military memorial doesn't justify it," Charlette LaFevere says. "It's offensive."

LeFevere is part of a small group calling on Seattle City leaders to have the 89-year-old United Confederate Veterans Memorial taken down.


And yet they have no problem with a statue of mass killer, Lenin in Seattle.
First of all, who is "them"?

The only people who should decide if monument should come down, in this case, are the people who own the cemetery, and even then I would have a problem with it. It's part of history, it ought to stay there.

And you ought to get over your "us" versus "them" mindset.
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:10 PM
 
Location: California
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The flag is down. There are no "next steps". It's done. It's a witch hunt at this point and I'm sick of it.
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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And you ought to get over your "us" versus "them" mindset.
As soon as the liberals stop doing everything they can to divide the country maybe I will. Did you tell that to Obama when he pushed the 'us vs them' mindset, or are you flexible on that point?
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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As soon as the liberals stop doing everything they can to divide the country maybe I will. Did you tell that to Obama when he pushed the 'us vs them' mindset, or are you flexible on that point?
That's cute, if it wasn't for those pesky liberals trying to divide this country instead of doing what the right wingers told them to do without giving them any lip.
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Oh what the heck.

It's in a cemetery for cripes sake.

Hope the thugs who have vandalized a cemetery monument have karma knocking on their door very soon.
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:20 PM
 
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And yet they have no problem with a statue of mass killer, Lenin in Seattle.
At first I thought you were joking.

No, Seattle really does have a Lenin statue.

If the Confederate flag is offensive, because it represents opposition to the US government and oppression of the evils of slavery - that is fine.

But how is Lenin, someone who advocated terror and mass executions of political prisoners not offensive to these same people?
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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As soon as the liberals stop doing everything they can to divide the country maybe I will. Did you tell that to Obama when he pushed the 'us vs them' mindset, or are you flexible on that point?
Did it ever occur to you that to liberals you conservatives are the divisive ones?
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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At first I thought you were joking.

No, Seattle really does have a Lenin statue.

If the Confederate flag is offensive, because it represents opposition to the US government and oppression of the evils of slavery - that is fine.

But how is Lenin, someone who advocated terror and mass executions of political prisoners not offensive to these same people?
If you are curious about the history of this specific statue, here is a great write up about it....also another very important fact, this statue sits on private property so it is the land owner's choice. Something right wingers should be willing to respect.

Fremont’s Lenin statue traces journey from Slovakia
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