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Old 07-13-2015, 04:25 AM
 
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Significant signs of progress....

Iran Talks: World Powers May Be Closing In on Nuke Deal - NBC News
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Old 07-13-2015, 04:55 AM
 
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Lol. Deal?

Obama: Hey, pretend we're making a deal and I'll sell you some weapons, release your frozen assets and let you build some nukes.

Iran: Deal?

Obama: Yeah, you know, pretend you're making concessions or sumpn. I'll send Mr. Ed.

Iran: Ok.
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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Default Diplomat: Iran deal reached, to be announced Tuesday morning

You can read the whole article at link but to avoid overlong and perhaps 'copyright' obstacles ... I bolded and excerpted the parts that the MSM is sure to overlook!

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An Iranian diplomat confirmed Tuesday morning that a landmark Iran nuclear agreement was reached after clearing final obstacles, and sources said it would be announced officially sometime in the late morning.

According to diplomatic sources, the deal includes a compromise between Washington and Tehran ...

But access at will to any site would not necessarily be granted and even if so, could be delayed ...

Under the deal, the source said Tehran would have the right to challenge the UN request ...
Diplomat: Iran deal reached, to be announced Tuesday morning - Israel News, Ynetnews
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:28 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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compromise between Washington and Tehran ...
Why is it that this keeps getting reported as a U.S. Iran deal, when in reality, it is the entire P5+1 at the table and Iran on the other side.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:23 AM
 
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Why is it that this keeps getting reported as a U.S. Iran deal, when in reality, it is the entire P5+1 at the table and Iran on the other side.
Well.. I honestly believe that while it is a P5+1 deal, the other counties act more as mediators between Iran and the US. Could you truly imagine the U.S. and Iran negotiating a deal of this magnitude with just those two at the table? It ain't happenin'. The countries that are involved have relations with Iran excluding the U.S., therefore it only made sense to invite those other countries in.

I imagine the U.S. would not budge on anything if it were only us two at the table. I can imagine some German foreign minister telling Kerry:

"You can't tell them they can never enrich uranium, but you can set a date for when they can."

Like I said, if it were just us two, we'd say:

"No enriched uranium, we're allowed reconnaissance missions over your country, military sites are subject to bombing of any evidence is found of a nuclear program, and we'll relieve the sanctions over 20 years."

Now with that being said, I don't have an opinion on this deal yet as it hasn't been announced, but what I do hope is that the U.S. is getting more out of this deal than what I heard previously.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:41 AM
 
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Seems lie iit is done now. As in any negotiations, you get some things you want and you don't get some things you want.... net result, an agreement all parties can live with.

Last edited by florida.bob; 07-14-2015 at 02:52 AM..
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:46 AM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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Let me sum up the agreement so far.

The U.S. unfroze all assets and even gave Iran more money.
They also allowed them nuclear technology.

In return the Iranians promised to hate Americans and still wage war against Israel and expand their aggression against the west and the world.
Got it.

There will be no inspections and Iran will be on the human rights council in the UN condemning the U.S. for abuse as they murder millions in their quest for world domination.

Boehner and McConnell will push this through congress for obama.

In the end the world will be one more step toward another world war with obama's blessings.
(Stolen from my friend .. samspade)
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Old 07-14-2015, 03:04 AM
 
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The Iranians are terrible negotiators. They have negotiated a very poor deal for their country.

Everything they are to do is upfront and in many cases not easily reversible.

But Everything the West has promised to is staged and can be reversed
with a Presidential order from western countries.
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Old 07-14-2015, 03:12 AM
 
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oh joy
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Old 07-14-2015, 03:55 AM
 
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Obama to speak on the deal at 7:00am... Thee usual war mongers' are lining up to despise the deal. It isn't the end all of problems, it's just the beginning of decades of movement towards, hopefully, a lasting peaceful resolution.
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