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Thank you. So what we have is a few months. Those over 60 mostly all have health care here. Japan is well above everyone so I would suggest the differences after 60 has a lot to do with diet.
Now that is something that could be addressed at younger ages if all were able to see a doctor on a regular basis which I do support.
I definitely agree pknopp. Health care should be a right for everyone, regardless of income.
I think you misread the chart abit. Among men, Japan is behind France, Switzerland, Australia and Iceland while the Japanese live 4 months longer than French women.
Switzerland is a socialist country (actually a social-capitalist country run by conservatives.)
Switzerland is the #1 performing country in the world. Their average income is double that of Americans, everyone has healthcare, there are no welfare freeloaders (yet they have a low poverty level), they have a citizen militia, government funded public gun ranges, ex.ex.
They are also the wealthiest country in the world in per capita terms, the #1 ranked competitive economy in the world, and they have lower national debt than America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switze...and_labour_law
But America's conservatives would never allow America to be like Switzerland, because the Swiss tax the rich at higher rates, and they make the rich pay more for certain things. If a very rich person in Switzerland gets a speeding ticket the fine can be up to $1 million USD. $1 million speeding fine in Switzerland for Swedish SLS owner
But America's republicans would never allow the rich to pay more for anything. But is a $500 dollar speeding ticket enough financial incentive to make a man like Bill Gates stop speeding?
First off, you should move to Switzerland because it is so wonderful. Secondly, Switzerland fills a need for the world with their banking system but they have a population of 10 million and you can't support a population of 320 million on one industry. Thirdly, I checked OECD statistics and the USA has a capita income significantly higher at $41,355 versus Swiss $33,491 and USA per capita wealth is also much higher at $146K versus Swiss $108K. Fourthly, the USA has a very different demographic than anywhere in the world and what might work in Switzerland might not work in the USA. Yay for Switzerland but I have below zero desire to live there. However, I do agree their health system and that of most of Europe is better than what we have.
He's right obviously. The system we have is beyond terrible. It would be cheaper to merge the entire thing into Medicare, as long as all these capitalist pig drug companies are kicked out of the business. Give grants to universities and let them do the research. Then maybe cancer meds wouldn't cost $1500 per pill.
The rest of the developed world negotiates the price of prescription meds. In the U.S.- not so much.
The Bush Admin supported an expansion of Medicare to include prescription meds. Given Medicare would become the largest single payer of prescription drugs, it made sense to give Medicare the authority to negotiate the price.
Instead, Congress voted twice to ban Medicare from negotiating price. Congress does not bite the wallets that feed them.
Big Pharm and the medical devise industry are 2/5 most profitable sectors in the U.S., beating out the financial sector in terms of ROI. Venture capitalists make substantial investments into front end research and expect a 20%+ ROI on the winners.
While many moan and groan about subsidizing insurance premiums, they seem to dismiss that they are subsidizing the rest of the world who negotiate and pay substantially less for medications.
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First off, you should move to Switzerland because it is so wonderful. Secondly, Switzerland fills a need for the world with their banking system but they have a population of 10 million and you can't support a population of 320 million on one industry. Thirdly, I checked OECD statistics and the USA has a capita income significantly higher at $41,355 versus Swiss $33,491 and USA per capita wealth is also much higher at $146K versus Swiss $108K. Fourthly, the USA has a very different demographic than anywhere in the world and what might work in Switzerland might not work in the USA. Yay for Switzerland but I have below zero desire to live there. However, I do agree their health system and that of most of Europe is better than what we have.
No two countries do universial healthcare the same.
The Swiss use a model that works for them. It works for the most part because government owns and operates most hospitals. It works because the government negotiates the price of prescription meds and medical devices. It works because the government fixes prices.
The Swiss, like the rest of the world, do not allow Big Pharma to advertise and encourage people to ask their doctor for XYZ drug. Hospitals don't compete for business. Hospitals do not destroy or acquire the competition.
There's no valet parking at the hospital. There's no latte in the lobby or waiting rooms. Hospitals are not making $ hundreds of millions in profit each year. Insurers are not allowed to make a profit off basic insurance. They can and do profit off of supplimental plans that cover what the basic plan does not.
How is he out of touch. Most Americans would support a single payer. People not satisfied could always supplement with their own private insurance. Medicare is popular, and most Americans knows someone who is on it. Personally I think emergency care/life and death care should be automatic, but routine care should come out of individuals pockets and private insurance.
Anything and I mean anything is better than Obamacare sux. Why don't we look at countries like Spain and France that have effective and reasonable cost systems and copy them.
What do you know of the healthcare systems in the rest of the developed world?
No two countries do universial healthcare the same and no country has perfect healthcare. Universial Healthcare systems are constantly tweaked and periodically reformed. The basic difference between healthcare in the U.S. and the rest of the developed world is that healthcare in the U.S. is business, a big fat profitable business. Healthcare is not viewed as a human right in the U.S. as it is elsewhere.
Like Germany, France imposes a mandatory healthcare tax on all employers, employees and the self employed. It's not adequate to pay for healthcare for everyone so it is augmented by general revenues ( income and other taxes) and deficit spending.
France, like all countries with universial healthcare, aggressively negotiates prices with all healthcare providers and sets rates that are lower than in the U.S. It's the heavy hand of government that puts the needs of the general population before profits of the private sector.
The healthcare system in France is viewed as one of the best in the world. Despite this, hospitals are bare bones. You bring your own towels and bed linens with you when you check in to avoid an out of pocket fee. Who would object to this if it was one of the many components that reduces costs?
I look forward to my health care rationing and expanded government bureaucracy.
In a private system, health care is also rationed. Although it is rationed by who can afford it, when it should be by who needs the care the most.
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