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Perhaps things are different in the US, but at least in Europe people do not take it kindly when their previously ethnically united population is suddenly swamped with foreigners. It's why the far-right is growing in the first place. Slow and controlled immigration where immigrants are expected to assimilate may not cause much problem, but the nonsense currently going on in Europe will end in disaster if it isn't stopped.
Americans are brainwashed by the "Nation of Immigrants(TM)" mythos from cradle to grave. Essentially, they're taught to believe that they have no right to a homeland and no legitimate interests. Ironically, the vehicle for this is an "appeal to tradition" fallacy, delivered by the very people that hold tradition in highest disdain any other time.
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Originally Posted by Bluefly
The U.S. is different. It was built on different ethnicities coming from other lands. Some were less welcome at first, but we're a nation that adapts to the different cultures who arrive here.
Ben Franklin, one of our primary founders, worked to build a temple where all faiths could worship because he was so committed to multiculturalism.
He said that if Constantinople sent someone to spread Islam, they would be given a pulpit from with to preach.
As noted earlier, celebrating the Mexican Cinco de Mayo holiday is now popular across many ethnicities in the U.S. We have a large population of Mexican immigrants and their cultural influence has shifted American culture, just like the cultural influences of Germans, Polish, Irish and others deemed inferior or "different" before them (St. Patrick's Day is huge here, even though Irish were initially scorned by the xenophobes of their day like new immigrants are scorned by today's xenophobes.
Salsa is now the leading condiment over ketchup, and that's consumed by many white people. We also have strong Indian, Muslim, Taiwanese, and other influences in various parts of the country. Some areas are known for their incredible Korean food, for example, and Korean cultural amenities, and we all love the variety they bring to our lives.
America adapts to newcomers; that's always been our strength. This is a strength in a global society where boundaries are collapsing.
Case in point: this nonsense. These 8th grade social studies bromides are the extent of the average American's political awareness.
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Originally Posted by Oldglory
I made a mistake in my prior post. I meant that a demographic change via "illegal" immigration is neither lawful nor natural. I have no problem with legal immigration in controlled and diversified numbers. It would no result in a huge demographic change but would contribute to the melting pot instead.
But it has resulted in huge demographic change, and contributes to nothing but Democrat voting roles and corporate profits.
Americans are brainwashed by the "Nation of Immigrants(TM)" mythos from cradle to grave. Essentially, they're taught to believe that they have no right to a homeland and no legitimate interests. Ironically, the vehicle for this is an "appeal to tradition" fallacy, delivered by the very people that hold tradition in highest disdain any other time.
Case in point: this nonsense. These 8th grade social studies bromides are the extent of the average American's political awareness.
Son, you want to make a point like an adult, then do it. You want to try and insult my intelligence, you're going to lose - and violate TOS.
Now, my point is we've always adapted our culture around newcomers. There's not a tradition that didn't come from an immigrant group. Try and name one. I'd be curious if others can think of some but I don't get why that's a bad thing.
Our entrepreneurial hustle as a culture evolved from an immigrant mindset, as did our healthy distrust of big government.
Even American football evolved from rugby and soccer. Lacrosse is probably our only truly native sport and that came from the people here before us.
I guess we can take credit for fast food, for better or worse, but I think of that more as a product like cars or computers rather than culture.
This ability to adapt will only serve us well in a globalized economy like we now have. Boundaries are collapsing rapidly with new technologies.
The principles of the far right are basic common sense. Like wants to be with like. People choose to self-segregate with others similar to them.
So how do you seek to enforce this separation? Many people of different ethnicities but similsr socioeconomic status are drawn together.
People I know have married those of vastly different cultures but melded their backgrounds together.
I think some of you live in homogenous areas and aren't really part of the global culture that is naturally evolving, so you still see dramatic differences.
Of course we need to keep terrorists and their sympathizers away, but I'm not talking about that. People will always be influenced by those around them. You can't stop that unless you forbid mixing of races / ethnicities. I'm not sure you're suggesting that, though
Americans are brainwashed by the "Nation of Immigrants(TM)" mythos from cradle to grave. Essentially, they're taught to believe that they have no right to a homeland and no legitimate interests. Ironically, the vehicle for this is an "appeal to tradition" fallacy, delivered by the very people that hold tradition in highest disdain any other time.
Case in point: this nonsense. These 8th grade social studies bromides are the extent of the average American's political awareness.
But it has resulted in huge demographic change, and contributes to nothing but Democrat voting roles and corporate profits.
That's because too many were allowed in too soon and we have gotten away from diversity. Too many from one ethnic group does result in a demographic change as they colonize rather than assimilate. We need to get away from so much family reunifications on our soil also. We should be allowing in legal immigrants that will be a benefit to our country rather than a burden and that is only if we have jobs and resources for them without depleting those things from Americans while keeping population growth in mind also.
By the way, I totally agree with your first paragraph.
I am not touting anything. The video explains reality in this country. It is what it is... Anyway. I wrote that I live in a city with a white population under 30% so it's not a lily white community. According to the first quote above, I live in a "sh -thole of illegitimacy and illiteracy and horrendous crime rates." Yes, there are some pretty bad hoods in my city. I don't venture there. No reason and it is not particularly safe. Also, beautiful hoods. It's a city.
I have a feeling you guys live in a rural community and have probably never traveled more than 50 miles from home. It tends to make the outside world scary. If you have not, I highly recommend traveling outside your comfort zone. Have fun!!!
I live in the Dorchester section of Boston, it was rural in 1750, now, not so much. Look it up if you're not familiar with it.
I live in the Dorchester section of Boston, it was rural in 1750, now, not so much. Look it up if you're not familiar with it.
Oh yeah, I know Dorchester. It used to be a poor Black hood and certainly not rural. What's it like now? I had family that lived there in the 70's and 80's. Was not a safe area back then but I think it gentrified. I'm going to assume you are young now and don't know the history or your hood. Look forward to hearing what Dorchester is like today. It's been a long time for me... Cheers.
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