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Old 09-22-2015, 04:52 PM
 
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It amazes me that anyone would want to come to America and yet prefer to continue to speak whatever language their native tongue. If a person really wants to become an American the very least they can do is learn to speak the english. Speaking english should be a basic requirement before anything else. English is accepted in almost any country. I firmly believe that if a person has been in the US for six months or so and has not learned the very basic use of english they should be deported.

I remember when I was in grade school we had a German boy come into our classroom. He didn't speak a word of english. In order to learn he first had to learn to speak english and he did and he did it quickly. It makes me wonder if these people who refuse to learn or speak english are simply stupid or lazy. Perhaps both.
I have found that many of them do learn English. They just don't want to speak it unless they have to.
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Old 09-22-2015, 06:03 PM
 
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I'm wondering why we always have to accommodate everyone else. Didn't they choose to come to this country?
I didn't choose to come to this country, I was born here. My grandmother made that choice for me when she decided to move to the US/Puerto Rico from Germany. So Spanish is my native language, where the **** do I go? I don't qualify to go back to Germany or Spain, genius
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Old 09-22-2015, 08:33 PM
 
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My first thought when I read this story was this sounds incredibly disrespectful.
She was supposed to be addressing the witness and instead was making a statement.
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Old 09-22-2015, 09:06 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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You obviously have never been to Puerto Rico, it's beautiful... With some work it could be another Hawaii..
So go ahead and visit PR frequently, like any other Caribbean island, we don't need to "own" it in order to enjoy it. Would you like to try to make Bermuda part of the US also?
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Old 09-22-2015, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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If you move to another country no one in that country will provide you with bills and such in your native language. You will be able to find newspapers and perhaps a few tv shows but if you don't learn their language you are basically sol. No one is forced to move here so if they don't want to learn English great move back where you came from.
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Old 09-22-2015, 09:20 PM
miu
 
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I didn't choose to come to this country, I was born here. My grandmother made that choice for me when she decided to move to the US/Puerto Rico from Germany. So Spanish is my native language, where the **** do I go? I don't qualify to go back to Germany or Spain, genius
So where would you like to live? Go marry a native of that country and stay there! Or just live in PR and speak Spanish. What are you doing posting on this English language message board? Go find a Spanish language one. Shrug.

It's great to be bi-lingual or multi-lingual. However English is what Americans should be speaking. We are a very diverse country culturally and the glue that helps hold all of us together is having English as our official language. If you want to speak Spanish and be immersed in the Spanish culture, then while you are in America, keep to the Spanish majority neighbors, but don't expect the signs in the rest of the country to be in both English and Spanish, or English and whatever the other majority culture is for that locale. Having Spanish as the second language is divisive, not respectful of the other cultures and nationalities that reside here, and also an unnecessary expense to the taxpayers to foot the bill for the specialty signs and papers.

English is also considered the universal language for scientists all over the globe.
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Old 09-22-2015, 09:29 PM
 
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So where would you like to live? Go marry a native of that country and stay there! Or just live in PR and speak Spanish. What are you doing posting on this English language message board? Go find a Spanish language one. Shrug.

It's great to be bi-lingual or multi-lingual. However English is what Americans should be speaking. We are a very diverse country culturally and the glue that helps hold all of us together is having English as our official language. If you want to speak Spanish and be immersed in the Spanish culture, then while you are in America, keep to the Spanish majority neighbors, but don't expect the signs in the rest of the country to be in both English and Spanish, or English and whatever the other majority culture is for that locale. Having Spanish as the second language is divisive, not respectful of the other cultures and nationalities that reside here, and also an unnecessary expense to the taxpayers to foot the bill for the specialty signs and papers.

English is also considered the universal language for scientists all over the globe.
Why should I have to live anywhere else but here just because you feel uncomfortable that several million native-born US citizens speak Spanish as their first language? Who gave you the right to tell me what language I can speak? Puerto Rico reserves the right, and we do, to speak primarily Spanish. It's never going to change, and I feel the same way that many many Puerto Ricans on the island do. We didn't fight for, and in many cases, die for the flag just so some insecure white good ol' boy doesn't like hearing any other language but English. You disrespect my family and thousands upon thousands of others from Puerto Rico who are and were combat veterans. We also died so you can keep your Bill of Rights, the 1st Amendment isn't for white people from the Midwest only
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Old 09-22-2015, 10:08 PM
 
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English is also considered the universal language for scientists all over the globe.
It's pretty much standard in the tech community too. A lot of open source projects may have people all over the globe contributing, they usually stick with English. I knew a guy that typed English perfectly, he couldn't speak it though.
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Old 09-22-2015, 11:35 PM
 
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I remember my Filipino father-in-law asking why he could not take the driver's test in Tagalog since there were people taking it in Spanish.
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Old 09-23-2015, 03:50 AM
 
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Why should I have to live anywhere else but here just because you feel uncomfortable that several million native-born US citizens speak Spanish as their first language? Who gave you the right to tell me what language I can speak? Puerto Rico reserves the right, and we do, to speak primarily Spanish. It's never going to change, and I feel the same way that many many Puerto Ricans on the island do. We didn't fight for, and in many cases, die for the flag just so some insecure white good ol' boy doesn't like hearing any other language but English. You disrespect my family and thousands upon thousands of others from Puerto Rico who are and were combat veterans. We also died so you can keep your Bill of Rights, the 1st Amendment isn't for white people from the Midwest only
Speak Spanish in the US and you'll probably be shunned. It is what it is.

Puerto Rico: it needs to be cut loose IMHO, maybe give it to Cuba.
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