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Old 09-25-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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That's nice but you can't prove it other than offering some anecdotal evidence about your Grandmother. If you have no transportation going to a clinic 40 miles away requires a bit more than "putting some effort into it"
People do it all the time whether you choose to believe it or not. I don't need to prove it.
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Old 09-25-2015, 12:28 PM
 
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Well perhaps the good people that drafted the legislation to close down Planned Parenhood Clinics should have addressed alternatives for the poor that no longer have health care. They closed down clinics that were low cost and convenient and in many cases the only possibility. Refresh my memory and tell me why this is necessary, was their primary interest insuring their constituents had health care.

They closed down clinics for people with no aternatives and your answer is "every obstacle in life can't be addressed by others", their government created the obstacle.
The Affordable Health Care Act was promoted by it's proponents as the answer to the uninsured being able to receive adequate health care. It disrupted a system already in place to insure the uninsured. If the lawmakers who voted on this did not take into account the various states reactions to it, then they were shortsighted but that is another issue. If Planned Parenthood is such an indispensable feature in some communities than the people who support them should quite literally start to support them.
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Old 09-25-2015, 12:35 PM
 
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Then I am assuming that those states make the determination that if you are young, relatively healthy and childless you are not eligible for state aid and must purchase insurance on an exchange. Isn't that the law under "Obama care"?
No, that's not correct. If you are young, healthy, and childless and have wages of less than $11,670 annually and reside in a state that did not expand medicaid you don't qualify for medicaid and you can't buy insurance through the ACA. That is explained in the link that I provided earlier, but in case you missed it, here it is again: The Coverage Gap: Uninsured Poor Adults in States that Do Not Expand Medicaid
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Old 09-25-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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No, that's not correct. If you are young, healthy, and childless and have wages of less than $11,670 annually and reside in a state that did not expand medicaid you don't qualify for medicaid and you can't buy insurance through the ACA. That is explained in the link that I provided earlier, but in case you missed it, here it is again: The Coverage Gap: Uninsured Poor Adults in States that Do Not Expand Medicaid
Then are they not in fact required by the ACA to purchase insurance without a subsidy by law?
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Old 09-25-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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Then are they not in fact required by the ACA to purchase insurance without a subsidy by law?
Not only are they not required to, they are not allowed to buy insurance on the exchange
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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Not only are they not required to, they are not allowed to buy insurance on the exchange
I'm not talking about an exchange. I am talking about going through an insurance broker like everyone else does who cannot qualify for a subsidy.
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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Having had a ruptured ectopic pregnancy at 6 weeks many, many years ago in a Christian hospital, they never asked me what I wanted to do with the "body parts", if they even bothered to search around for them.

I just assumed they incinerated the "remains" along with the rest of the blood and my fallopian tube.
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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It's not the Democrats who are threatening to shut the government down. Do try to keep up.

You mean like health services for poor women? I'm glad there's one party that thinks that's important.
Republicans have no problem with providing health services to poor women. That isn't this issue. The issue is whether or not taxpayers should be paying for the harvest and (likely illegal) sale of human body parts. That's a legit concern.
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:31 PM
 
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Republicans have no problem with providing health services to poor women.
Obviously they do. Republicans have a problem providing any services to any poor people, as is obvious to anyone who's been in America (or on the C-D message boards) for more than an hour or two.

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That isn't this issue. The issue is whether or not taxpayers should be paying for the harvest and (likely illegal) sale of human body parts. That's a legit concern.
First of all, there is nothing illegal going on at PP. This has already been established by state investigations since the doctored videos were released.

Secondly, if Republicans want to prohibit the practice of donating fetal tissues, they should propose a bill that would make it illegal, and (assuming it passed) apply that to all medical practitioners, rather than focusing on defunding one particular organization that provides health services to poor women.
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:36 PM
 
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Nobody is selling baby parts. Tissue is being donated, as allowed by law.

Actually, yes. In a lot of places, PP is the only place any woman can go to get free/reduced health services. People who aren't completely ignorant know this.
Its documented that they have sold.... not donated.

I thought Obamacare was supposed to take care of womens healthcare needs.
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