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I'm not interested in further restricting the rights of the citizens in this nation who haven't committed a crime with a gun, because of the criminal elements who can't stop breaking the law, and become productive members of society, and the random nutjob that goes postal! And since we're talking about technology changes, since we want to limit guns, let's limit what methods we can use to exercise our free speech.
Trying to find the connection between free speech and gun control. Sounds like quite the leap. Has the restriction put on guns since the 2nd amendment was written limited your free speech in some way?
Nice attitude from someone who lives in a country where a military man can be hacked to death in broad daylight and no one can lift a finger to help him. I can guarantee in my town that would not have happened as someone would have pulled a LEGAL gun and shot the perpetrators.
It wouldn't have happened in my town either, and my town while it does have some rural areas in what you would call an exurb, we aren't way out in the country either.
Nice attitude from someone who lives in a country where a military man can be hacked to death in broad daylight and no one can lift a finger to help him. I can guarantee in my town that would not have happened as someone would have pulled a LEGAL gun and shot the perpetrators.
Doubtful at best...and you found ONE scary incident.
Obviously we have a failure to communicate. Chicago's high homicide rate is not due to guns coming or going inside the city but is due to a bunch of gangbangers who have little regard for life and by liberal politicians who know where the guns are but refuse to go into the area and bust the little low lifes. All the talk about getting rid of guns and yet liberals refuse to take care of business in their own backyards.
Trying to find the connection between free speech and gun control. Sounds like quite the leap. Has the restriction put on guns since the 2nd amendment was written limited your free speech in some way?
It is slightly off the subject BUT neither film as in moving pictures nor the Internet were around in 1787. Yet, one is facing a constant battle of those who want to say what one can show on film, there are those who say there ought to be limits on the Internet. They are protected, however, as are many things, such as video games, by the 1st Amendment, the Freedom of Speech.
Now, this is not saying that the restrictions on the 2nd Amendment are the same as attacks on the 1st Amendment. Rather, it is a counter against the argument that the Founding Fathers could not have imagined the fire power of now (they might have but leave that as it is) and therefore, the 2nd Amendment does not apply to now. For that argument, we might say that the Founding Fathers could not have imagined the Internet, television, moving pictures, radio, sky writing, and whatever else; therefore, the 1st Amendment does not apply now and one can censor, say, radio.
Beyond any reasonable doubt the US second amendment was intended to arm the citizenry to the extent that they could overthrow the government if it went wrong. The ultimate check on government power.
That view is long gone and has been discarded by the Supreme Court
No it hasn't.
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and even the supporters of second amendment arms including the NRA. Nobody wants a citizen militia able to over throw the government.
It isn't always necessary to overthrow the government.
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The present position is simply what happens when you have a law nobody wants but that you cannot get rid of...
Nice attitude from someone who lives in a country where a military man can be hacked to death in broad daylight and no one can lift a finger to help him. I can guarantee in my town that would not have happened as someone would have pulled a LEGAL gun and shot the perpetrators.
Hmmm. What makes your town any different than all the other towns in the US when people are murdered in the street.
Where were those LEGAL gun owners when this happened?
Doubtful at best...and you found ONE scary incident.
Looking now towards the US .....
It is not doubtful, it happened in Woolwich as you obviously know and it was horrific. The fact that all those people stood and watched and could do nothing is ridiculous.
Trying to find the connection between free speech and gun control. Sounds like quite the leap. Has the restriction put on guns since the 2nd amendment was written limited your free speech in some way?
BOTH are guaranteed rights afforded to us! However; take the 2nd away, and kiss the 1st goodbye! It really is that simple! Furthermore, you hate guns, and that's fine! Don't own one! Your country has strict gun laws, and that's fine! Your country, your rules! I get it! However; quit trying to inject your influence on our laws in this nation! So, if you're afraid that this country has too many guns, why not just keep your a** north of the border? Despite the hyperbole that is portrayed here not everywhere in this country has shoot outs in the streets, and despite the random mass shooting that has occured, most of the gun crimes happen daily on the streets of our inner-cities, but nobody refuses to address why that is. No, that's racist to do so!
yes it has. Pretty well explicitly in the USSC decision. That had the chance to make the intent clear and ducked hard.
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It isn't always necessary to overthrow the government.
It is the capability not the act that was intended.
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The majority wants it or it would have changed.
Takes a whole lot more than a majority to change the Constitution.
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