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Old 10-05-2015, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Every time we pass a new milestone, X trillion in debt, we should all go out celebrating, like it's New Year's Eve, to celebrate that there's that many idiots in the world that will even buy our debt!

When you really think about it, do we really need the Hawaiian or the Alaskan Islands. Let's see, what other useless assets could we use to settle our debts? The Florida Key's? Catalina Island off the coast of Los Angeles?

 
Old 10-05-2015, 09:52 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Bush (GW) was the president who gave more money to Africa than any other president in United States history. As I said, RINO through and through. You do not give away the amounts of money George Dubya did to that black hole of Africa; INSANE.
The US government takes in about $2.5 trillion dollars a year in tax revenues. GW Bush gave Africa $5 billion dollars a year (that's about $40 billion dollars.)
George W. Bush's Legacy on Africa Wins Praise, Even From Foes - ABC News

You complain about a trivial $40 billion dollars to help Africa. But you fully ignore $2.5 trillion dollars used to pay back Bush's CEO campaign contributors, the $1.2 trillion dollars given to large corporations, $2 trillion dollars spent on a unneeded Iraq war, ex.ex.

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Furthermore he was a pro-illegal sympathizer, as has a lot of "conservatives" before and after him. More liberal insanity infecting good clean and common sense conservatism.
You spoke of common sense conservatism. Is that where you don't know the difference between billion and trillion, and then complain about the national debt, when you don't even know what causes our national debt?

How did Obama grow our national debt? (but I doubt you can even answer the question.)

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Old 10-05-2015, 10:00 PM
 
Location: East Side St. Paul
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The US government takes in about $2.5 trillion dollars a year in tax revenues. GW Bush gave Africa $5 billion dollars a year (that's about $40 billion dollars.)
George W. Bush's Legacy on Africa Wins Praise, Even From Foes - ABC News

You complain about a trivial $40 billion dollars to help Africa. But you fully ignore $2.5 trillion dollars used to pay back Bush's CEO campaign contributors, the $1.2 trillion dollars given to large corporations, $2 trillion dollars spent on a unneeded Iraq war, ex.ex.



You spoke of common sense conservatism. Is that where you don't know the difference between billion and trillion, and then complain about the national debt, when you don't even know what causes our national debt?

Can you explain how Obama grew our national debt?
Nice of you to leave out the last part of that post "The entire government is a puppet regime (I'm convinced after what I've seen) hell bent on sending us all into permanent serfdom."


I used his African garbage as an example of his Republican in Name Only shenanigans...among many many others that he allowed, not the least of which was an astonishing flood of third world mud into America of...who knows how many. Some think as many as 30 million illegals are here and you can bet a large chunk of that was due to him.

Of course he gave more money away to Africa than any president (liberal or "conservative") ever did...and is 40 billion dollars to you peanuts???


No wonder why we're ****ing in debt to the tune of $20 trillion and our march towards total bondage into serfdom.
 
Old 10-05-2015, 10:27 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Nice of you to leave out the last part of that post "The entire government is a puppet regime (I'm convinced after what I've seen) hell bent on sending us all into permanent serfdom."
You need $900 million dollars in campaign funds to make a good run for president (of course our government is a money controlled puppet regime.) But still there are different puppet masters.

Republicans get 100% of their money from large corporations, and democrats get huge amounts of money from worker labor unions.
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

These workers unions represent regular American workers, that's why democrats support helping workers and the middle class (and republicans don't.)

GOP Senators Reject Tax Cuts for Middle Class - CBS News
GOP Blocks Credit Card Bill, Endorses Skyrocketing Interest Rates | ThinkProgress
Senate Blocks Bill to Lower Student-Loan Interest Rates - WSJ
GOP Blocks Senate Small-Business Tax Cut Bill : Roll Call News


Then billionaires give our politicians money. Conservative billionaires like the Koch brothers fund the republicans, and they want corporate tax cuts, corporate deregulation, and low tax rates for CEO's.
What Do the Koch Brothers Want? - Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont

But liberal billionaires like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates give the democrats money, and they want a balanced budget and fair tax rates for everyone.
Bill Gates: Tax the Rich More to Help Reduce Deficit - Mic
Buffett's Tax Plan Is Smart, Fair, And Reasonable - Business Insider


And if you want a low national debt then clearly democrats are the best choice.

Carter- had trivial deficits/debt growth.
Reagan- tripled the nation debt with supply side tax cuts (tax cuts for the rich and large corporations.)
Clinton- balanced the federal budget.
GW Bush- turned our balanced budget into huge deficits/debt growth with supply side tax cuts.
Obama- cut GW Bush's deficits in 1/2.

The bottom line is the people who give democrats money oppose supply side tax cuts, and the people who give republicans money want nothing but supply side tax cuts.

And the democrats handouts cost BILLIONS, but the republicans supply side tax cuts cost TRILLIONS.

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Old 10-05-2015, 10:34 PM
 
Location: East Side St. Paul
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You need $900 million dollars in campaign funds to make a good run for president (of course our government is a money controlled puppet regime.) But still there are different puppet masters.
Not really, the end goal is puts them all in the same boat. You continue to try to prop up your liberal overlords as some sort of respectable lot...laughable. 7 of the top 10 wealthiest members of Congress are LIBERALS! Stop with the propaganda.


This goes back to the elites flooding our country and turning it into a third world cesspool. Much of this all goes right back to the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act that subsequent large floods of non- or un-educated individuals...and also it has made this nation a balkanized mess...when we had a more common heritage and goal among other things we witnessed people with good salaries and paying jobs.
 
Old 10-05-2015, 10:41 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Not really, the end goal is puts them all in the same boat. You continue to try to prop up your liberal overlords as some sort of respectable lot...laughable. 7 of the top 10 wealthiest members of Congress are LIBERALS! Stop with the propaganda.


This goes back to the elites flooding our country and turning it into a third world cesspool. Much of this all goes right back to the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act that subsequent large floods of non- or un-educated individuals...and also it has made this nation a balkanized mess...when we had a more common heritage and goal among other things we witnessed people with good salaries and paying jobs.
I would love to march to Washington tomorrow with guns and pitchforks (and throw out EVERYONE.) But until that day happens we have 2 choices democrat or republican, and

(D) Carter- had trivial deficits/debt growth.
(R) Reagan- tripled the nation debt with supply side tax cuts (tax cuts for the rich and large corporations.)
(D) Clinton- balanced the federal budget.
(R) GW Bush- turned our balanced budget into huge deficits/debt growth with supply side tax cuts.
(D) Obama- cut GW Bush's deficits in 1/2.
 
Old 10-05-2015, 10:53 PM
Status: "My eyes are rolled back so far I can see my brain." (set 9 days ago)
 
Location: Here.
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It's actually pretty simple. We run up the debt as much as possible during our lifetime to reap all the benefits and leave it to the next generation to deal with the results. Who knows, maybe they'll enjoy living under servitude to the Chinese or whoever our Repossessor is?
 
Old 10-05-2015, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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The US government takes in about $2.5 trillion dollars a year in tax revenues. GW Bush gave Africa $5 billion dollars a year (that's about $40 billion dollars.)
George W. Bush's Legacy on Africa Wins Praise, Even From Foes - ABC News

You complain about a trivial $40 billion dollars to help Africa. But you fully ignore $2.5 trillion dollars used to pay back Bush's CEO campaign contributors, the $1.2 trillion dollars given to large corporations, $2 trillion dollars spent on a unneeded Iraq war, ex.ex.



You spoke of common sense conservatism. Is that where you don't know the difference between billion and trillion, and then complain about the national debt, when you don't even know what causes our national debt?

How did Obama grow our national debt? (but I doubt you can even answer the question.)

Colluding with the Federal Reserve Does the Federal Reserve Print Money?
 
Old 10-06-2015, 01:24 AM
 
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Its funny how so many people post factual responses about deficits falling under Obama, and other facts....which get promptly ignored by those cheerleading for the other side. Why are people refusing to comprehend or discuss facts? Ohhh...because its inconvenient truths. Got it.
 
Old 10-06-2015, 02:37 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Ah - good old Ron Paul: the economic delinquent's excuse for reason and sanity.
You mean the one who told us about the housing bubble as earlier as 2001? Anyone who says he doesn't know economics is ignorant or insane or both.
Here he is from 2003 when he was on the banking committee.
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