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Hardly anyone can get an assault rifle. Being a vet you should have been taught the difference between an assault rifle and a semi-auto modern hunting rifle.
getting a real assault rifle means having a class 3 license.
getting that license is a real pain in the butt. hope you like having your fingerprints taken multiple times, having the local sheriff sign off on it, and a 3-6 month wait.
then when you buy a class 3 firearm, you will be shelling out most likely 10,000+ for a single firearm, depending on the make and model.
a M2 machinggun can easily go for 15,000.
I just looked at a rare M4 class 3 firearm, and it is selling for 65,000.
try buying that, more than most people make in a year these days.
getting a real assault rifle means having a class 3 license.
getting that license is a real pain in the butt. hope you like having your fingerprints taken multiple times, having the local sheriff sign off on it, and a 3-6 month wait.
then when you buy a class 3 firearm, you will be shelling out most likely 10,000+ for a single firearm, depending on the make and model.
a M2 machinggun can easily go for 15,000.
I just looked at a rare M4 class 3 firearm, and it is selling for 65,000.
try buying that, more than most people make in a year these days.
It's because of that reason that no shooters are using such a weapon - it is simply beyond their means. It the same way in AUS now that assault weapons are banned - you can buy one on the black market but it is going to cost you.
It's because of that reason that no shooters are using such a weapon - it is simply beyond their means. It the same way in AUS now that assault weapons are banned - you can buy one on the black market but it is going to cost you.
Explain "assault weapon". The law in the US would have banned weapons on their looks and not their function. By adding a few accessories a muzzle loader would be classified an "assault" weapon.
It's because of that reason that no shooters are using such a weapon - it is simply beyond their means. It the same way in AUS now that assault weapons are banned - you can buy one on the black market but it is going to cost you.
I used to have a few class 3's, but i got tired of the inspections and f-troop, finally got rid of them and told the f-troop to go take a hike.
You missed the problems with confiscation. How many people are you willing to sacrifice both gun owners and non-gun owners alike in the pursuit of disarming the public.
We don't know who has guns, every home, business, office, retailer, storage room and shack, plus millions of acres of land would need to be searched. Everyone's home would need searching, what because someone say's they donate to the Brady fund they're getting a pass?
How many armed men looking through people's homes does it need before someone is shot by accident, I'd give it a day, maybe less, maybe with enough people an hour. Someone who isn't a gun owner, was never a gun owner, hates guns is shot, or a family member of theirs is shot, like wives, husbands, sons, daughters. Who's also going to pay for property damage, because there will be property damage.
That's with compliance, without compliance (and there will be non-compliance) how many cops, feds, and members of the military would be shot and killed? How many would actually follow those orders knowing that someone like them under the same stresses and pressures is searching their homes and families homes?
Think about it, every single meth lab, crack house, drug (and other illegal item) dealer, everywhere will need to be searched, every single one of them. It would make the Rodney King and Oakland Riots of the look like a day in the park in California, but that would be repeated in every major city in the US.
You don't need to just repeal the 2nd for this, you need to amend the constitution's ex post facto clause too (because how can you prosecute someone for gun ownership after confiscation when you don't have a record of that gun [and you don't] and when it came into that persons possession, prove they received it beyond a reasonable doubt after confiscation). Then suspend the constitution entirely for the period of confiscation which may take some time, maybe up to 5 years depending on the manpower assigned.
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You are absolutely wrong.
No black market in guns would spring up, because the penalty from being caught with a gun would be 10 years, or life in prison with out parole.
There goes the incentive for a black market.
Sure like there is no illegal drugs (recreational and pharmaceutical), illegal medical procedures, treason, terrorism, tobacco, alcohol, homicide, robbery, property theft, speeding.
The only thing that stops the incentive for a black market is availability of their product. If you can sell an item worth $200 for $800 profit people are going to risk selling that product if it's proscribed, the more risk the seller takes the higher it drives the prices to account for that risk. People who are doing illegal business are going to buy something that is 1000% over market value if they need it, because they're just going to pass on that cost to their customers anyway, their customers will pay by either legitimate or illegitimate means.
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Don't kid yourself there is no such thing as "never".
Many are already giving this amendment a lot of consideration.
Bob.
No there isn't, which is something people should be aware of, there's no such thing as there will never be a military coup in the US, there's no such thing as there will never be an armed revolution in the US either, there's no such thing as there will never be another state secede. These are some of the nevers that may need to be evaluated too.
Many may be, but not enough. Your state accounts for 2% of the vote for a Constitutional Amendment, accept it, or secede, either/or I don't really care which. You need 38 states to ratify such an amendment, in the full knowledge of what comes next, and I'll be honest, any state legislature that passes it are smoking some serious crack, because they're signing people's death warrants. I don't even think crazy gun control states would take the risks, it would be political suicide regardless of outcome and may become actual suicide if it's determined after the dust settles, the people were criminals and domestic terrorists. People who are on the losing side of bloody revolutions normally are not afforded light sentencing, and that's a risk anyone so stupid to push this and execute on it would be risking. Not risking like having an extra drink and driving home risking, but risking like bareback riding a smacked up HIV positive hooker on a 747 with three engines on fire, Carlos the Jackal standing behind you, Mohammed Atta at the controls while approaching New York City risking.
It's because of that reason that no shooters are using such a weapon - it is simply beyond their means. It the same way in AUS now that assault weapons are banned - you can buy one on the black market but it is going to cost you.
And that explains why it didn't happen before how? Oh, it doesn't, just another gun grabber fantasy.
While calling 911 and expecting someone with a gun to come and save him.
Actually no. The OP only wants the military to have guns. Which means law enforcement would be unarmed as well. Which means cops would have to ask "pretty please" really politely.
Actually no. The OP only wants the military to have guns. Which means law enforcement would be unarmed as well. Which means cops would have to ask "pretty please" really politely.
And there would be no hunting. Imagine how many more would die in deer vs car.
LOL - fire season in Kommiefornia must be over and the OP didn't get to use his flame suit.
My suggestion to the OP. Move to Oakland or Sacramento, and get back to us in a few months after you've been shot or robbed a few times. Living on your knees when only tyrants and bad guys have guns might lose it's esoteric shine after awhile.
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