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Old 10-14-2015, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Even by American Stinker standards that was terrible.

Listen, The architect of the entire Southern Strategy gave a death bed confession and asked for forgiveness for the political plague he helped unless on this nation. We are collectively paying for his sins and it has driven his party to the edge of irrelevancy on a national level. Redistricting after 2020 is not going to be kind to the Republican party in its current extreme-right state.
The idea that the GOP is "irrelevant" is nonsense. The GOP crushed Democrats in the last congressional elections. And GOP presidential candidates regularly poll higher than the current herd of Democrats.

And it isn't the GOP that's "extreme". The RNC, the House and the Senate are all run by barely right Republicans who constantly do nothing to implement conservative ideas and principles. They have established a great track record of allowing Obama to do whatever he wants. The Tea Party types are in the minority, have little power and don't control the party. And they aren't extremists either. They simply want smaller, sane government.

The real extremists are on the Left. The leading candidate is a Socialist. He vacationed in the Soviet Union. The other candidates struggle to define any significant way in which they differ with him. The party is run by Leftist demagogues who are incapable of articulating the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist, even when asked about this point blank. JFK would be kicked out of the Democratic Party today for being "an extremist" who supported the military, faced off with the Communists and cut taxes. The Democratic party has lurched so far into the fever swamps of the Left it now believes that John Boehner, of all people, is an "extremist".

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Old 10-14-2015, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Here we go again!

It always seems to be the end of one or the other party to somebody. The fact is they (the two parties) need each other to perpetuate their power. Without an enemy who would they blame?

The demise of one party will mean the end of the other because they each need the other to blame for their failures.
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Southern bigots (and bigots from everywhere) and racists should not be allowed to dictate policy in this country on ANY level. Federal, State, Local.
Yea sure! Start with the DNC who is filled with faux tolerance and suppression of the poor under the guise of "helping them" Political actors who make the worst kind of bigots and racists.
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Old 10-14-2015, 11:58 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Good article.

Southern bigots (and bigots from everywhere) and racists should not be allowed to dictate policy in this country on ANY level. Federal, State, Local. They should not be able to participate in any branch of our government, whether that be executive, legislative, or judicial. The fact that they do, is the biggest flaw of this country. These people should be quarantined, not decimating this country with their ignorant views. We therefore shouldn't have a Republican party or a tea party branch of a Republican party.

Our great President Obama represents the beginning of the end of the GOP, the party of Dixie. Not surprising to watch them implode, as they continue their FREE FALL.
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Old 10-14-2015, 12:03 PM
 
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The idea that the GOP is "irrelevant" is nonsense. The GOP crushed Democrats in the last congressional elections. And GOP presidential candidates regularly poll higher than the current herd of Democrats.

And it isn't the GOP that's "extreme". The RNC, the House and the Senate are all run by barely right Republicans who constantly do nothing to implement conservative ideas and principles. They have established a great track record of allowing Obama to do whatever he wants. The Tea Party types are in the minority, have little power and don't control the party. And they aren't extremists either. They simply want smaller, sane government.

The real extremists are on the Left. The leading candidate is a Socialist. He vacationed in the Soviet Union. The other candidates struggle to define any significant way in which they differ with him. The party is run by Leftist demagogues who are incapable of articulating the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist, even when asked about this point blank. JFK would be kicked out of the Democratic Party today for being "an extremist" who supported the military, faced off with the Communists and cut taxes. The Democratic party has lurched so far into the fever swamps of the Left it now believes that John Boehner, of all people, is an "extremists".
I said increasing irrelevancy. Redistricting after 2020 is going to be painful in many current swing states.

A lot of those "barely right" Republicans were voted in back in 1994 and were proudly labeled the most conservative congress ever. The fact that current Republicans consider those right-wing politicians to be not conservative enough speaks volumes.

Democrats, especially Clinton and Obama, have been adopting traditionally Republican policy positions since the 80's pushing Republicans further to right. Your demand for greater and greater ideological purity and the need to out conservative each other has pushed the Republican party so far out of the mainstream on a the national level that it really does face irrelevancy.
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Old 10-14-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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This is exactly right. The liberals are clueless about what's been going on in the Republican Party. They want it to be something that it is not, and for that reason, they are blind to the truth. They can't see what's happening, because they are looking for something that doesn't exist. We in the Republican Party who have been the driving force behind the Republican takeover of the House and Senate, now want our elected officials to follow through on their promises. That's what this is about. The RINO's never intended to do what they said they would. Therefore, Boehner was forced to resign, McCarthy was forced to withdraw (to a large degree for his part in discrediting a legitimate investigation), and we are demanding a Speaker who will see to it that what was promised to the voters is actually accomplished.

We're tired of "show" votes. We want action. We don't want people who think it is their job to pass the Presidents agenda, if the President is taking America down the wrong path (as Obama is).

What is going on in the Republican Party would have made the framers proud! This is how they designed it to work.
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Old 10-14-2015, 12:17 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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No no no. HERE is the reality:

This country is filled with nut bars.
It's like one massive insane asylum.
And the "nutbars" are Obama and the "progressives" who have been trying to remake America (destroy it) and tear up the Constitution for many decades, since Theodore Roosevelt, who may have been the first RINO.
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Old 10-14-2015, 12:20 PM
 
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i also think the status quo types are the ones unraveling right now, and i think trump is the one leading the way on that. he came on the scene and spoke his mind with out being politically correct, and the ones in power cant handle it. we shall see though early next year as to what the voters are really thinking.
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Old 10-14-2015, 12:29 PM
 
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Democrats, especially Clinton and Obama, have been adopting traditionally Republican policy positions since the 80's pushing Republicans further to right.

Your demand for greater and greater ideological purity and the need to out conservative each other has pushed the Republican party so far out of the mainstream on a the national level that it really does face irrelevancy.
LOL! Yeah... Obama is well know for his Republican positions! LOL! Why, you can't turn on the news today with hearing people calling him a closet Republican!

The GOP doesn't demand ideological purity. There is far more ideological diversity and dissent inside the GOP than there is in the Democratic party. The Democratic Party purged it's Blue Dog Democrats 2 elections ago in pursuit of ideological purity. They succeeded. Today the Democratic party is a virtual monolith of Progressive kooks marching in lockstep towards their Socialist Utopia. Forward!
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Old 10-14-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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LOL! Yeah... Obama is well know for his Republican positions! LOL! Why, you can't turn on the news today with hearing people calling him a closet Republican!
His signature legislation was created by a right wing think tank and first implemented by a GOP governor, who then invited the president to use it as a model for the country. Which he did. So yeah, Obama is going to be best remembered for adopting at least one Republican position, and it's the one most people will associate Obama with in years to come.

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The GOP doesn't demand ideological purity. There is far more ideological diversity and dissent inside the GOP than there is in the Democratic party. The Democratic Party purged it's Blue Dog Democrats 2 elections ago in pursuit of ideological purity. They succeeded. Today the Democratic party is a virtual monolith of Progressive kooks marching in lockstep towards their Socialist Utopia. Forward!
The reason no one can get to 218 in the House Speaker election is because of the small group of staunch Conservatives who refuse to vote for anyone outside of their little enclave, and who are making demands that must be met to satisfy them before they'll consider any candidate. You don't see that from the more moderate members of the GOP, but they're not in control of the process any longer, the far right is. No one who would be acceptable to the entire caucus can pass the Freedom Caucus' stringent demands, so no one can be elected to the seat.

That's what ideological purity will get you. We're seeing it being played out right now.
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Old 10-14-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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The idea that the GOP is "irrelevant" is nonsense. The GOP crushed Democrats in the last congressional elections. And GOP presidential candidates regularly poll higher than the current herd of Democrats.

And it isn't the GOP that's "extreme". The RNC, the House and the Senate are all run by barely right Republicans who constantly do nothing to implement conservative ideas and principles. They have established a great track record of allowing Obama to do whatever he wants. The Tea Party types are in the minority, have little power and don't control the party. And they aren't extremists either. They simply want smaller, sane government.

The real extremists are on the Left. The leading candidate is a Socialist. He vacationed in the Soviet Union. The other candidates struggle to define any significant way in which they differ with him. The party is run by Leftist demagogues who are incapable of articulating the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist, even when asked about this point blank. JFK would be kicked out of the Democratic Party today for being "an extremist" who supported the military, faced off with the Communists and cut taxes. The Democratic party has lurched so far into the fever swamps of the Left it now believes that John Boehner, of all people, is an "extremist".
Hillary Clinton is the leading candidate, not socialist Bernie.
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