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Old 12-04-2015, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Harbor Springs, Michigan
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Pointed was neither of them was refugee hence neither of them was screened. So simple yet so hard for conservatives to understand.
But she was screened, she entered the USA on a K-1 fiancee visa and was granted a green card. The forms (I-129f, I-485, I-751) included information of her past and present addresses, work places etc, she would also have to provide an officially translated version of her birth certificate. The USCIS and FBI use this [voluntary] information to vet applicants.

As I mentioned on another post more than one of the questions asks of any involvement with militia type groups would she have answered yes? ..... probably not. So that leaves you to wonder how precise/factual the information is that they receive from foreign governments/agencies.
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Sounding more and more like the foreign wife was a big player in this.
She had pledged allegiance to the "JV team" ISIS.

AP SOURCE: WOMAN IN SHOOTING PLEDGED ALLEGIANCE TO IS
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The problem is that even his sister didn't know anything about it. Honestly speaking, I know this is not politically correct for me to say, but I don't trust her, nor do I believe her.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v6-YOksRJI
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Were we unfortunate enough to have a Republican president at this time, the problem would be infinitely worse.

The President is right. Screening procedures have kept out maybe 99.9% of the terrorists, but it's not unreasonable to find that some radicalization may occur. If Republicans have a better plan, you better get someone in the White House first so that we can see it FAIL miserably.
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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Were we unfortunate enough to have a Republican president at this time, the problem would be infinitely worse.

The President is right. Screening procedures have kept out maybe 99.9% of the terrorists, but it's not unreasonable to find that some radicalization may occur. If Republicans have a better plan, you better get someone in the White House first so that we can see it FAIL miserably.
Do you enjoy being constantly wrong? You must have never been to the ME to think we can effectively screen all of the refugees they want to bring in.
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Old 12-04-2015, 11:49 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Obama chided the repubs....."The Republicans are afraid of "widows and orphans"..."


So here we have a woman with a little baby who leaves the kid to embrace a mass slaughter.


Ash Carter just opened up all combat positions to women.


Was that comment by obama part of his war on women where he underestimates their abilities?


Actually I'd like to see a DNA test to see if the baby was hers. Apparently it was just a prop to appear normal. You got to be cold to toss the kid to a relative and go martyr yourself.


Obama probably can't pronounce Mata Hari!
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:14 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Obama chided the repubs....."The Republicans are afraid of "widows and orphans"..."

So here we have a woman with a little baby who leaves the kid to embrace a mass slaughter.
Example after example, he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, then ends up with egg on his face.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Were we unfortunate enough to have a Republican president at this time, the problem would be infinitely worse.

The President is right. Screening procedures have kept out maybe 99.9% of the terrorists, but it's not unreasonable to find that some radicalization may occur. If Republicans have a better plan, you better get someone in the White House first so that we can see it FAIL miserably.
Screenings must be 100% effective, a republican president would have seen to that.


Maybe we should have annual screenings of resident white males since they seem to be more involved in most of our mass shootings.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Example after example, he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, then ends up with egg on his face.
He was speaking to Syrian refugees, not the Visa program. Last week no one paid attention to the program, the fire of the week was barring Syrians. The GOP just reacts to fear and develops legislation accordingly without looking long term.
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Old 12-04-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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He was speaking to Syrian refugees, not the Visa program. Last week no one paid attention to the program, the fire of the week was barring Syrians. The GOP just reacts to fear and develops legislation accordingly without looking long term.
Radicals have already hinted they will "sneak in" with the refugees, and our own government officials (FBI, DHS, etc.) have said they cannot be thoroughly vetted; the records don't exist.

Also, just out:

Organizer of Paris attacks recruited men at Budapest train station amid refugees

Paris attacks suspect was recruiting at Budapest railway station during refugee wave
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