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Old 12-07-2015, 06:55 PM
 
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Re the suicide posts. Perhaps it is cheaper than moving to a state where it is legal to kill yourself?

Think about that. The difference between using a needle to kill yourself and a bullet is what, the means and therefore one is okay and the other is not?

Its okay to go to a hospital, inject yourself with a lethal dose of something outlawed in many states as not good enough to put people to death after murdering others, yet you want to have a national dialogue about suicides of white men who use guns to take their own lives?

Start thinking a bit, no think a lot about what point you are trying to make.
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Old 12-07-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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This.

The homicide rate among the whites is about the same as in the Western Europe.

The homicide rate among the blacks is on Africa levels.

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So you're pointing out that us blacks are a more violent race of people on the average.

A lot of blacks feel disrespected when this is pointed out, but I'm not one of them because it's true unfortunately. It's why I live in a white neighborhood.

It's one of those things that I wish could change, but I know that it never will. We're just wired differently. Studies have shown that we have more testosterone. People like to pretend that doesn't make us less rational at times, but it's silly to think that it doesn't factor into our behavior.
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Old 12-07-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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So the cleanup is the big difference?

It is okay to pay someone else to put the sheet over your face because that somehow makes everyone think the death was painless?

Again, if the drugs used in legal suicide are okay then why aren't they ok to use to put criminal to death?

It doesn't add up.

The cleanup doesn't add up either. The family could pay someone to cleanup to mess, just like they pay someone to clean up the suicide in the hospital when the dead person's bowels let loose and they crap all over the place.

The difference is the mess, wow, such an important point.



Just ask someone that saw their loved ones brains splattered all over the room or even them or had to identify the body..
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Old 12-07-2015, 07:29 PM
 
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Just ask someone that saw their loved ones brains splattered all over the room or even them or had to identify the body..
Or someone who fell victim to a driver who ran them over and pressed their head into a pancake.

A non-starter.

Bodies can be identified by fingerprints and DNA.

Better to sit there and watch someone inject themselves right? Instead of not knowing when they did it, you get to watch with the ignorant bliss that you think they are going off to lala land in peace.

Again, if it is so peaceful and painless, then why can't those same drugs be used to put criminals to death?

You joined in with this distraction so at least defend it.
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Old 12-07-2015, 07:32 PM
 
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Or someone who fell victim to a driver who ran them over and pressed their head into a pancake.

A non-starter.

Bodies can be identified by fingerprints and DNA.

Better to sit there and watch someone inject themselves right? Instead of not knowing when they did it, you get to watch with the ignorant bliss that you think they are going off to lala land in peace.

Again, if it is so peaceful and painless, then why can't those same drugs be used to put criminals to death?

You joined in with this distraction so at least defend it.
I Have nothing to defend about suicide other than the Bible says no to it.

CHICKENS EAT THEIR GUN!
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Old 12-07-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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I Have nothing to defend about suicide other than the Bible says no to it.

CHICKENS EAT THEIR GUN!
That wasn't what was in all your other posts on the matter. Now it is about the Bible eh? Nice bail on your own position.

Well then, the thread wasn't about suicides, it was about an article and some statistic that said mostly white men own guns in American and were that true then what is the explanation as to why so many blacks use guns to kill other people?
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:25 AM
 
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Re the suicide posts. Perhaps it is cheaper than moving to a state where it is legal to kill yourself?

Think about that. The difference between using a needle to kill yourself and a bullet is what, the means and therefore one is okay and the other is not?

Its okay to go to a hospital, inject yourself with a lethal dose of something outlawed in many states as not good enough to put people to death after murdering others, yet you want to have a national dialogue about suicides of white men who use guns to take their own lives?

Start thinking a bit, no think a lot about what point you are trying to make.

The suicides aren't mercy killing suicides committed by the elderly. The vast majority are young white men taking their own lives for whatever the reason. It is the 2nd leading cause of death in the age range of 10 - 34. The 3rd leading cause of death in the 35 - 44 age group. And the 4th leading cause of death in the age of 44 - 54. After 54 there is a significant drop in suicides in that particular demographic. I'm flummoxed over the fact that white's are obsessed over African American's black on black crime when they are losing so many of their own youth by gun violence in the form of suicide.


Why isn't there a national debate on this most serious of issues within the white community? What are the root causes and how can it be prevented? Is it cultural or is something else that is sinister that is in play? Also the unintentional injury deaths in the age group between 15 - 44 is astronomically higher than other demographics. Is that due to reckless behavior?


http://www.cdc.gov/men/lcod/2013/whitemen2013.pdf


http://www.newsweek.com/2015/10/02/a...de-374547.html
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Old 01-17-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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Stricter gun control won't solve the problem. Valuing life will solve the problem. Having respect for one another will. Not having an attitude of self-hate and anger issues will help. I don't think we have a gun problem. I think we have alot of people with anger problems.
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Old 01-17-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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More white men commit suicide by gun than all the murders in America combined. Why is that?
Because it is easy, but making guns illegal doesn't stop suicides. Guns are essentially illegal in Japan, but they have one of the highest suicide rates in the world at 30,000 per year.
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Old 01-17-2016, 10:52 AM
 
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Because it is easy, but making guns illegal doesn't stop suicides. Guns are essentially illegal in Japan, but they have one of the highest suicide rates in the world at 30,000 per year.
Russia has strict gun laws too, and far fewer Blacks than the USA. Russia has a higher suicide rate than Japan, one of the highest rates of alcoholism in the world, and a murder rate more than twice as high as the USA. Russia at one point had murder rates as high as the 30s' per 100,000.
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