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I didn't even realize we let people come here with no visas.
But hey..every little bit helps.
The Visa waiver Program is almost 30 years old. It's reciprocal and mostly European countries, not the Middle East. It exists to promote tourism and business.
The US receives 70 million foreign visitors each year from all over the world.
My goal is to visit at least 100 countries and I am well beyond the half way mark. It's more costly to visit countries that are independent of the the visa waiver program. In some cases, you have to either visit the foreign embassy or mail the documents, your passport and a check to an embassy.
Many countries, allow visitors to buy a VISA at the point of immigration. Turkey is one of them, unless things recently changed.
Some countries do not swipe or stamp passports. Some countries charge a fee for a stamp.
Not all countries have bought into digital passports. I believe Syria is one of those countries.
As it relates to the recent Paris attacks, most who engaged were citizens of France or Belgium and had not traveled to the ME. They could have entered the US without a visa at any point in time.
The people want government to "do something" to increase the perception of safety.
The Visa waiver Program is almost 30 years old. It's reciprocal and mostly European countries, not the Middle East. It exists to promote tourism and business.
The US receives 70 million foreign visitors each year from all over the world.
My goal is to visit at least 100 countries and I am well beyond the half way mark. It's more costly to visit countries that are independent of the the visa waiver program. In some cases, you have to either visit the foreign embassy or mail the documents, your passport and a check to an embassy.
Many countries, allow visitors to buy a VISA at the point of immigration. Turkey is one of them, unless things recently changed.
Some countries do not swipe or stamp passports. Some countries charge a fee for a stamp.
Not all countries have bought into digital passports. I believe Syria is one of those countries.
As it relates to the recent Paris attacks, most who engaged were citizens of France or Belgium and had not traveled to the ME. They could have entered the US without a visa at any point in time.
The people want government to "do something" to increase the perception of safety.
5 of the 7 shooters had travelled to Syria. The 2 in the house with Abaaoud had also traveled to Syria.
I'm just wondering how we have a clue as to where people have been the last 5 years? Then I'm wondering how accurate any records are?
Then I'm wondering whether this would do anything at all. Would it have stopped the two major attacks we had? Boston and California? It doesn't seem to me it would.
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I haven't read this bill, but based on the article, your OP is actually incorrect. This bill would end visa-free travel to anyone who has been to Syria or Iraq in the past 5 years, not anyone that has been to ME countries in the past 5 years. That is why it is getting bipartisan support, which I have to agree is a reasonable bill.
HOW can it be considered reasonable when it gives a pass to anyone who's been to Saudi Arabia, a known haven for Islamic terror, in the last 5 years?
Iraq and Syria bad?
Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Egypt, et al just fine and dandy?
Typical half-assed planning/action by Congress that will in the end accomplish little/nothing other than allowing the politicians to pat themselves on the back for their 'hard work'.
HOW can it be considered reasonable when it gives a pass to anyone who's been to Saudi Arabia, a known haven for Islamic terror, in the last 5 years?
Iraq and Syria bad?
Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Egypt, et al just fine and dandy?
Typical half-assed planning/action by Congress that will in the end accomplish little/nothing other than allowing the politicians to pat themselves on the back for their 'hard work'.
Warped logic...those are the 2 countries where ISIS has control.
In France many of the young Muslims there did go to Syria to fight with the rebels and then came back to France.
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Warped logic...those are the 2 countries where ISIS has control.
In France many of the young Muslims there did go to Syria to fight with the rebels and then came back to France.
Maybe that is what influenced our Congress.
Warped logic?
I think not.
WHERE did the 9/11 hijackers come from?
Hasn't Yemen been implicated in many acts of terror?
Don't those opposed to the Iran deal tell us what a cesspool of terror Iran is?
Didn't Pakistan shelter bin Laden?
I don't think it's warped logic at all, if anything it's Congress having the attention span of a 5 year old.
HOW can it be considered reasonable when it gives a pass to anyone who's been to Saudi Arabia, a known haven for Islamic terror, in the last 5 years?
Iraq and Syria bad?
Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Egypt, et al just fine and dandy?
Typical half-assed planning/action by Congress that will in the end accomplish little/nothing other than allowing the politicians to pat themselves on the back for their 'hard work'.
Actually it sounds like this is still being put together and what countries it applies to is still a bit vague because of the wording that it includes countries that have significant amount of terrorist activity.
So I guess no one knows how we determine where every single person around the world has traveled in the last 5 years?
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