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Originally Posted by pknopp
So I guess no one knows how we determine where every single person around the world has traveled in the last 5 years?
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Originally Posted by urbanlife78
We do, it is called a passport.
I don't know if it's still the case but I was in Morocco about 20 years ago and on entry, instead of stamping your passport they put a stamped piece of paper in your passport. The explanation I was given was that if I ever wanted to travel to Israel, not having a stamp from an Arabic country in my passport would be a good thing. I believe Cuba followed a similar policy with Americans who traveled there via Canada or Mexico.
I would support a bill like that. Nothing wrong and not against one group as it is people from all backgrounds that will not get a visa as they could have been there.
One person on CNN compared it with Ebola and closing the Country off to anyone who visited the areas where Ebola was threatening the population and the way this man explained it was very good and nothing to do with comparing islam to a disease as another person stated but comparing how to keep the Country safe.
Only sick people will make a sick comparison without seeing what really was meant to be compared.
No more PC but just being clear how to keep everyone safe.
The family of this murder couple stated they knew they were radicalized and they didn't report it and the mom lived in the household so she must be a radical muslim as well and that entire family sat there and did nothing so they are a bunch of sick people and the father already stated Israel will be off the map within 2 years so he should be out of this Country as he is sick in hi head too. that is hatred and b stating these things to his son he contributed to the radicalism, instead of saying son wise up and get rid of your sick thoughts.
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan
Only been to Ireland where US citizens don't need a Visa.
I would have thought after 9/11 that the US would definitely require visas from any ME country or any country experiencing lots of terrorism.
The way I heard this proposal explained it's got nothing to do with letting people with ME passports into the US without a visa. It would affect those who can normally travel here without a visa IF they've been to Syria or Iraq in the last 5 years.
I don't know if it's still the case but I was in Morocco about 20 years ago and on entry, instead of stamping your passport they put a stamped piece of paper in your passport. The explanation I was given was that if I ever wanted to travel to Israel, not having a stamp from an Arabic country in my passport would be a good thing. I believe Cuba followed a similar policy with Americans who traveled there via Canada or Mexico.
Yup, I remember that as well. Thing to remember is that you are tracked in a ton of ways. If your passport is missing the stamp, that doesn't mean that the US is unaware of where you have been.
HOW can it be considered reasonable when it gives a pass to anyone who's been to Saudi Arabia, a known haven for Islamic terror, in the last 5 years?
Iraq and Syria bad?
Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Egypt, et al just fine and dandy?
That's just an argument for adding Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Egypt, Pakistan, etc. to the bill, not an argument against the idea itself. (Saudi might be tough, though, because of the hajj, which is going to generate a lot more legitimate traffic to that problematic country than most of the others get.)
Will it stop more terrorist attacks? Maybe, maybe not. (I don't expect it will make a huge difference, but it might make a small bit of difference.) But it doesn't infringe on anyone's rights, so at worst it's just ineffective, not ineffective AND unconstitutional (like so many of the other proposals currently floating around are).
This will do more to prevent a terrorist attack than any gun control law.
Over 20 million come to the US with no travel visas each year and we let them stay for 90 days.
This bill will end that for anyone that's been to ME countries in the past 5 years.
And this bill has bipartisan support.
House set to tighten restrictions on visa-free travel to US
The House is poised to crack down on visa-free travel to the U.S., aiming to ensure that the Paris attacks won't be repeated here.
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It is likely to pass by a wide, bipartisan margin.
Israelis won't be happy about this bill.
70 million tourists come to US annually, not 20 million.
The family of this murder couple stated they knew they were radicalized and they didn't report it and the mom lived in the household so she must be a radical muslim as well and that entire family sat there and did nothing so they are a bunch of sick people and the father already stated Israel will be off the map within 2 years so he should be out of this Country as he is sick in hi head too. that is hatred and b stating these things to his son he contributed to the radicalism, instead of saying son wise up and get rid of your sick thoughts.
Yesterday, the FBI disclosed this couple were both radicalized and Farooq had been so long before he sought a wife. They did not attribute this conclusion to the family and instead referred to hundreds of interviews. Farooq has a long history of gun ownership and target practice and his was joined him, post her arrival in the US.
This puts an end to speculation that his wife may have radicalized him. They seem to have been kindred spirits.
Farooq and his father did not have a relationship. Father is an alcoholic, wife beater and despises his ex wife.
Seems the FBI has their hands full sorting out this family and personal agendas.
I choose not to draw any premature conclusions given I have no knowledge of the interviews that have and will continue to be conducted by the FBI.
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