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It's not even one baby born to folks with money. It's just one baby born to anyone who DOESN'T receive public assistance, while 3 are born to those dependent on public assistance.
Yep. And that IS a mathematically certain problem. It's unsustainable. Period. I don't understand why people don't realize that.
My solution is to cap welfare expenditures at current levels, adjusted for population change.
Benefits per case would then necessarily fall as caseloads increase, thereby reinsttuting a stigma on mooching breeders.
e.g. baby showers would be replaced with the opposite
I don't believe those stats. Everyone around me in my social circle, family members, co-workers all have saving accounts and have much more than 1k in them.
I'm a solid middle class person, so it's not like were rich over here. To not have at least 1k in a saving account is truly scary. If the stats are true, then we as a society are in deep doo doo.
Try getting a cleaning lady who'll take a check, much less one who'll give you an SS or Tax ID number for a 1099. They want to be paid in cash. Teenage babysitters are paid in cash. The kid who mows your lawn/shovels your driveway is paid in cash. Cab drivers are paid in cash. Hair stylists are tipped in cash. I could go on and on... Little to none of that is reported to the IRS.
Solution: replace cleanup woman when she approaches $600 threshold for IRS reporting
With interest rates as low as they are, why would anyone have their money in a savings account? That would be idiotic.
Stocks are deadly for the most part.
Remember the low interest rates started under Clinton, people left with no alternative went into stocks as the big boys bailed leaving elders broke. That was the start of the recession at the end of the Clinton administration.
Many people do the above and are poor. What's your point?
You can only argue for equality of opportunity and do best you can in life. Equality of outcomes is impossible. Not everyone remains in the same economic circumstances their whole lives.
I don't believe those stats. Everyone around me in my social circle, family members, co-workers all have saving accounts and have much more than 1k in them.
I'm a solid middle class person, so it's not like were rich over here. To not have at least 1k in a saving account is truly scary. If the stats are true, then we as a society are in deep doo doo.
You don't know the financial situation of everyone.
During that mortgage crisis I saw plenty of homes go into foreclosure in a golf course community that I used to shortcut through.
This was an upscale community with mandatory golf club membership.
And there were plenty of foreclosures in there.
Many people are living at the edge.
Your friends may have $1K in savings but what are their debts ?
A good emergency stash is 6 months worth of living expenses in case you lose your job.
I don't know anyone who is on welfare and has an iPhone and a nice car.
Not everyone on welfare has a baby mama mama and a baby daddy flush with cash.
There are tons and tons of people on welfare with iPhone's! Just yesterday I saw a lady with a Coach purse using an ebt card to pay for her groceries lol.
That's strange... I find that the great "people-mover of life" (I like that!) favors some over others. I went to one of the top public high schools in the US. That was followed by a top public university with a top 10 computer science program. My dad was an executive at a venture capital firm and paid for my college education by check. When I came out of college I leveraged my dad's connections for a job at a Fortune 500 company. Even today, I leverage the network I have built through the town I grew up to build my current businesses as an entrepreneur.
I work hard. So does the minimum wage worker, working two jobs.
I live in a beautiful 4 bedroom contemporary home on 3 acres in Connecticut with my partner. I know of families who have 3 kids and a two bedroom apartment. We have two cars and a boat. Others have to travel by public bus....
I have to say that I had some good favor and it certainly was easier for me to achieve success than a kid who grew up in poverty, surround by crime in Bridgeport, CT.
It's not as simple as making bad choices. You have to acknowledge that.
On the other hand, despite the situation you are born in to, in the end you ARE responsible for your choices-- but the path is by no means equal.
Correct. Everyone IS responsible for their choices, but absolutely the path is by no means equal. That is exactly right.
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But it still comes down to choices that one makes in life. There are lots of kids born into well off families that never amount to anything. That "affluenza" kid in jail in Mexico is an example.
On the other hand I knew a refugee guy that escaped from an oppressive government He ended up in the USA with no money and didn't know English. Despite that he put himself through college, became a mechanical engineer at a US firm and is now doing quite well for himself.
It all comes down to choices.
Listen, I know that it's very easy to believe that this is all that there is to it, but in SOME cases, this isn't all that there is to it. It does not answer for everyone, of course, and in MANY cases you are correct: people made horrific choices and continue to make horrific choices, but to state that this is the end all, be all reason is incorrect. I may have shocked mlassoff to the point of passing out, but he is absolutely right.
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