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Old 01-04-2016, 08:22 PM
 
Location: NJ/NYC
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I wish that was all they wanted. If it was, this probably would have been resolved a long time ago. Ehud Barak and Bill Clinton offered Arafat the portion of Jerusalem where the Arabs lived in exchange for a sliver of the West Bank where Jews lived, and the Arabs flatly rejected it.
Rabble rabble settlements, rabble rabble zionist, rabble rabble apartheid.

These people have no argument. It just funny to me at this point. Funny and very sad.
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Old 01-04-2016, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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You just explained why the Jewish God of the Old Testament is not the same God as the Christian God of the New Testament.
No. The Old Testament prophesises the coming of the Messiah... God made flesh. There is no such prophesy for Allah.

And when Jesus was preaching his message he was preaching as a Jew. He never considered himself anything other than a Jew and neither did his followers.
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Old 01-04-2016, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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They still believe in the same God, Islam considers Jesus one of the prophets, they just consider Mohammed to be the last prophet.

I hate to burst your bubble but they all come from the same source.
As I suspected, you are incapable of learning anything. Just because Mohamed appropriated Jesus (because it was convenient for him to do so) doesn't mean they are the same. In Islam Jesus is a Muslim, not a Christian.

But there is no sense in arguing with someone incapable of processing basic facts.
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Old 01-04-2016, 08:38 PM
 
Location: USA
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Repeat

Last edited by LS Jaun; 01-04-2016 at 08:51 PM..
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Old 01-04-2016, 08:39 PM
 
Location: USA
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[quote=sxrckr;42508841]I think they just choose to be on the opposing side of anything republicans or conserives are, no matter the facts. Just like for Hillary, that is their "enemy" and God forbid they should ever admit their "enemy" is right on anything that is so true."


I dated a woman who no matter what the topic would draw a dividing line between Dem and Repub. It didn't even matter if it was a liberal or conservative issue, it was all about her tribe and being right. I believe the Zealotry of the Left is most similar to the Religous Zealotry of the Right.
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Old 01-04-2016, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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But there is no sense in arguing with someone incapable of processing basic facts.
Basic facts? I thought we were discussing religions and you fell into the my-god-is-real-their-god-is-fake trap.
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Old 01-04-2016, 08:42 PM
 
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I think they just choose to be on the opposing side of anything republicans or conserives are, no matter the facts. Just like for Hillary, that is their "enemy" and God forbid they should ever admit their "enemy" is right on anything that is so true."


I dated a woman who no matter what the topic would draw a dividing line between Dem and Repub. It didn't even matter if it was a liberal or conservative issue, it was all about her tribe and being right. I believe the Zealotry of the Left is most similar to the Religous Zealotry of the Right.
Agreed and how!
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Old 01-04-2016, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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And Israel offered them exactly that multiple times, and they said no every single time.

So why exactly should we feel bad for these people?

This conflict isn't about land, its about Muslim refusal to have any state with Jews in the mideast.

Period, end of story.
Maybe so, but none of the multiple offers were what the Palestinians or Arabs wanted because it didn't meet what they were asking for.
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Old 01-04-2016, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I wish that was all they wanted. If it was, this probably would have been resolved a long time ago. Ehud Barak and Bill Clinton offered Arafat the portion of Jerusalem where the Arabs lived in exchange for a sliver of the West Bank where Jews lived, and the Arabs flatly rejected it.
Jews shouldn't be living on Palestinians or Arab land to begin with.
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Old 01-04-2016, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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As I suspected, you are incapable of learning anything. Just because Mohamed appropriated Jesus (because it was convenient for him to do so) doesn't mean they are the same. In Islam Jesus is a Muslim, not a Christian.

But there is no sense in arguing with someone incapable of processing basic facts.
You try and try, but they come from the same religion and worship the same God even if you can't bring yourself to admit that fact.
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