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Old 01-24-2016, 05:33 PM
 
Location: United States
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The majority of us here in Canada have never owned or seen a gun. Open and concealed carry is also banned country wide. The shooting happened on a reserve in the middle of nowhere in northern Saskatchwan. This will never happen in Toronto.
You were saying?
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Old 01-24-2016, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Wow! What a bunch of lies.

Fact: Canadians own more than 10,000,000 guns.

Fact: Canadians need and want guns or they would not have bought ten million of them.

Fact: In 2011, there were over 22 million Christians out of 32 million citizens.

Fact: Religion is quite relevant in Canadian society.
10 million guns equates to 30 guns per 100 people. Of course people may own more than one gun so the actual number of people owning guns will be lower.
Of those people if you weed out occupations that require guns, the next group would be hunters and people who live in rural areas.
Handguns are allowed if your job requires one, or you belong to a gun target shooting club. Your bullets remain at the club, and your gun has to be in a special box that locks. You must also have a permit to transfer your gun. You must go straight to your club and home. No stopping on the way.
So this need you talk about is not for protection.

Compare that to the US, where you have 112 guns per 100 people....again knowing that one person will own more than one gun, and that many of those guns are handguns.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number...ita_by_country


Religion is less relevant in Canada than the US. Especially in politics. Canada is one of the least religious countries in the world.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ous-countries/
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Old 01-24-2016, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Saying a school shooting would never happen in Toronto is of course silly. It can happen anywhere. How often is the real point though, isn't it?

It is rare in Canada. This school shooting was the first one in a decade. How many in the US?

Toronto had 56 homicides in 2015. 26 by gun.
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Old 01-24-2016, 05:58 PM
 
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Saying a school shooting would never happen in Toronto is of course silly. It can happen anywhere. How often is the real point though, isn't it?

It is rare in Canada. This school shooting was the first one in a decade. How many in the US?

Toronto had 56 homicides in 2015. 26 by gun.
Canada has about 32 million people, add a zero to the end of that to get the US population.

Look at post #52 in this thread to see how the US stacks up against other countries when it comes to mass shootings. You may be surprised to see the US has less mass shootings than some of the European countries.
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Old 01-24-2016, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Saying a school shooting would never happen in Toronto is of course silly. It can happen anywhere. How often is the real point though, isn't it?

It is rare in Canada. This school shooting was the first one in a decade. How many in the US?

Toronto had 56 homicides in 2015. 26 by gun.
The U.S. has many, many more. Our population is nine times the number of Canada's and we have a serious gang violence problem that drives the yearly toll. But you already knew that. You're just pushing for a bit of deflection and hey, that's OK. I hope your violence doesn't get worse up there. I wish we had less here. We're all in this together.
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Old 01-24-2016, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Ok. How about Finland, Israel and Slovakia?
What about them? Finland has had 2 in the time period, and 3 in the last 100 years. I am surprised Israel had not had more. Seems like Slovakia has had one. I believe Finland is in top 5 in private gun ownership in the world.

Actually, no, Finland has more or less the same amount of guns per 100 people as Canada.
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Old 01-24-2016, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Canadians don't need or want guns. "muh right ta bear arms!!" is an American concept. We are absolutely nothing like you. Most people in Canada do NOT own guns, we are majority liberal and religion has no relevance in our politics or society. Unlike the U.S...
You are not living in my Canada are you? There are 30.8 guns for every 100 people in Canada...Bear in mind that many of those 100 people are either children or elderly.
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Old 01-24-2016, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Canada has about 32 million people, add a zero to the end of that to get the US population.

Look at post #52 in this thread to see how the US stacks up against other countries when it comes to mass shootings. You may be surprised to see the US has less mass shootings than some of the European countries.
Norway is high because of that massacre in 2011. I'm curious where it would be on the list now.

This list is very incomplete, but claiming things are not so bad because 5 countries on that list are above the US is faulty in my opinion. Where would the US be if all countries were on that list?

Look at the murder rates in countries worldwide. Look at the amount of gun deaths per country worldwide, including accidental and suicides, then tell me that things are fine in the US.

Canada actually has 35 million people, so of course the numbers will be less, but per capita is what counts.
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Old 01-24-2016, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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The U.S. has many, many more. Our population is nine times the number of Canada's and we have a serious gang violence problem that drives the yearly toll. But you already knew that. You're just pushing for a bit of deflection and hey, that's OK. I hope your violence doesn't get worse up there. I wish we had less here. We're all in this together.
Nice try. I've seen Americans do this trick when trying to save face on these forums. Don't like a stat, remove the offending piece that makes that stat not fit what you want, and presto !

You are basically saying " well the US wouldn't have so many gun deaths and murders if it weren't for gun deaths and murders"
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Old 01-24-2016, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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You are not living in my Canada are you? There are 30.8 guns for every 100 people in Canada...Bear in mind that many of those 100 people are either children or elderly.
...they were comparing gun ownership to the US, which is 112 per 100 people. Also the type of gun plays an important role.
I'm curious as to what the percentage of those 30.8 guns in Canada are handguns, compared to the US.
My guess....not many.
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