Sen. Rand Paul Introduces 'Life' Bill to Give Unborn Children Constitutional Rights

[godofthunder9010]

Originally Posted by charolastra00

So unwanted children matter less than babies. Got it.

And you say we're the sick ones.

Wow, putting words in people's mouths? Not sure I should even bother responding since you seem to just want to illicit an emotional response.

I said they are two completely separate issues. The reality that there are some absolutely terrible parents out there -- so bad that their children need to be taken away for the children's own protection. That's why we have an overcrowded foster care system. It's got nothing to do with abortion. It is the result of people who went ahead and chose to have their babies in a variety of financial and marital circumstances, then they were criminally irresponsible at parenting. Yes these kids matter. We need a better foster care system than the one we have now. These kids aren't getting adopted right and left because the psychological trauma they've been through leads to behavioral issues that your average newlyweds are completely unprepared to deal with. For the record, I intend to foster once my kids get a bit older because yes I really do care about those kids, and I'm happy to put my money where my mouth is. But it's all off topic anyways.

If you want to start up a thread about the foster care system, then by all means do so. But it is not about abortion. So stop trying to hijack this thread with other issues.

On topic: What I did say is that there is a shortage of newborn babies available for adoption in America today. There is a backlog of would-be adoptive parents. There's a much larger group who simply can't afford the average $30K it costs to adopt a baby, but who would be happy to take in the unwanted babies otherwise. There are religions who would step up and accept the challenge to find good families for a very large influx of unwanted babies. What I said is that if somebody gave me the chance to adopt a baby that they would otherwise abort, I'll be happy to do so. So to those who want to say, "You want to save them but you won't help them once their born," I say you're wrong.

[hothulamaui]

Originally Posted by OICU812

No, I've had plenty of run ins with that member, she is nasty, and goes for the personal attack. You knew that's what she was doing by your "boom, roasted" comment. So do not pretend she was just trying to be helpful and offering advice.

Originally Posted by OICU812

I think a lot of us know of someone who had a child still born, or born with tragic birth defects where the child did not live very long. It's horrible, and no one wants to be put into the circumstance where they have to perform a late term abortion because of these deformities.

why ask a question if you knew the answer? rhetorical? or did you truly not know there are medical reasons for late term abortion? which is why I suggested you educate yourself on the subject instead of staying in the dark.

yes it is horrible for a woman and her family when her pregnancy experiences one of these abnormalities and she is faces with a LTA.

BTW I don't do personal attacks, but calling me "nasty" seems to be one.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by momonkey

OK, I give up, what about the rape victim who doesn`t believe in having an abortion ?

that person didnt choose to have sex, which is what you were arguing.

[janelle144]

Originally Posted by jamies

Men need to get out of women's bodies. Especially old right wing religious zealots.

Men need to get our of women's' bodies? Tell that to the women who get pregnant when they don't want to, you think men just got into their body without their consent? Only in rape.