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Old 02-14-2016, 03:45 AM
 
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Europeans can't help it that they were the first to be literate and come up with ideas about race and everything else.

You are benefiting right now from those ideas.
Europeans were hardly the first ones to come up with any of that. Nice try though.

 
Old 02-14-2016, 04:03 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I'll use my favorite criticism of the all lives matter phrase. When you are at a fundraiser for breast cancer/heart disease/ diabetes is anyone complaining that you are not focusing on all diseases? Have you done a cancer run or walk that was interrupted by an all diseases matter activist?

Saying black lives matter doesn't add an implied everyone else's doesn't. Spending a bit of time focusing on something doesn't erase the other things.

Of course it does! Because we have to be able to acknowledge fault when the fault is our own. That has not happened so far. BLM started off screaming that there was an injustice and then proceeding to loot the closest drug store. The facts of the case did not matter. When similar 'injustices' happened to whites they never opened their mouths.


We are all humans. When you cross that line of pretending one is better than the other; then you are a racist or worse - you are becoming what you want us to fight against.


I know that not all police are perfect and the bad apples should quickly be weeded out. But, as a Nation, we have given them the job of protecting and serving. Our laws bind us together and, in general, were created for the better good. Our police are not 'at fault' for doing their job. If we think our laws should be rewritten; then we have a process to change our laws. The very last thing that any Black community needs is for nobody to come when you have problems.
 
Old 02-15-2016, 01:53 AM
 
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Acutally, Europeans weren't the first to be literate, not by a longshot. However, modern ideas of race and racism is backward ideology that has polluted the world. Those who developed and perpetuated those ideas will answer to God for it.
So before there was a concept of race as defined by Europeans, there was war, there was slavery, there was religious conflict, there was tribalism, there was superstition, there were rivalries between clans, and there were many other ways for people to dislike and fear "the Other."

I suppose you would say that those were all good things until Europeans came along and talked about race -- at which point the Garden of Eden came to an end.

Okay, if that's how you want to look at it.

In fact, it was Europeans who developed concepts of human rights, individual liberty, democracy, etc., and put them into practice.

And it was European colonialists who banned slavery throughout their colonies. That prohibition met with a lot of resistance from the people in those colonies.

Slavery existed in the ancient Americas, in Asia, in Africa and in the Middle East. It wasn't going to go away by itself.

So yes, it was Europeans who were progressive and literate -- who reshaped the world and made it a better place whether you like it or not.
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