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Old 02-12-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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Here's some cheerful news to mull over as we drift into President's Day weekend. Remember the Metrojet crash last autumn Moscow originally blamed on the Islamic State? Now Russian media is blaming it on Turkish terrorists and they've announced large scale military exercises right next to Turkey.

From the Observer - "Kremlin propaganda against Ankara has increased of late, setting the stage for further confrontation. As I explained here last week, Russian media outlets initially blamed the Sinai crash of Metrojet 9268 last autumn on the Islamic State, an atrocity which killed 224 innocents, nearly all of them Russians—a quite plausible claim. However, the Kremlin has abruptly shifted course and now blames the mass murder on Turkish ultranationalist terrorists, without any evidence provided to support that explosive assertion." Mounting Evidence Putin Will Ignite WWIII | Observer

Turkey is not happy - "Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu has implied that Turkey will take action after the capture of the town of Azez in Syria, a strategic corridor between Aleppo and Turkey for rebel groups, by Syrian regime troops backed by Russian airstrikes.
Speaking to reporters en route to Turkey from the Netherlands, Davutoğlu said that he had told German Chancellor Angela Merkel of the need to stop Russia in Syria in order to prevent further influxes of refugees to Turkey and Europe from the region, the Hürriyet daily reported on Friday. When asked whether Turkey will take action to reopen the corridor to Aleppo, Davutoğlu said, “Wait for the next few days and you will have the answer,” daily Hürriyet reported on Friday." Davuto

Turkey is a NATO ally, if it hits the fan, we're involved.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:36 AM
 
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Turkey is playing both sides of the fence here and NATO and the allies are turning a blind eye to it.

Turkey is an ally when it suits them.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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He is a Dirty Rotten **** but he doesn't want full scale war.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:39 AM
 
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Turkey is an ally when it suits them.
Yes they are...like most countries. That doesn’t change the fact that our NATO obligations mean we have to help out.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:41 AM
 
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Russia got their asses kicked in Afghanistan (just like we have) when they were stronger than they are now. Putin isn't going to start anything and even if he did we need to stay away and let him collapse things just like the last time.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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"Mr. Romney, the 80's are calling, they want their foreign policy back."

-Barack Obama-
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I say pull our troops and gear out of there. Don't leave anything they can use against our allies. We should not commit any actual troops or supplies to this mess beyond advisors and some necessities for the civilians caught in the middle.

What exactly do we get from this region? is it OIL? we have our own supplies of fossil fuels so why not tap it?

Much of the middle east practice war as a hobby and their only export is oil and terrorists.

The USA is not the police or the saviours of the world so let them fight it out.

As history has taught us in the middle east a friend is not always a friend and often the side we pick to support is merely the lesser of 2 evils. Gee it kind of sounds like the upcoming elections.....
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I say pull our troops and gear out of there. Don't leave anything they can use against our allies. We should not commit any actual troops or supplies to this mess beyond advisors and some necessities for the civilians caught in the middle.

What exactly do we get from this region? is it OIL? we have our own supplies of fossil fuels so why not tap it?

Much of the middle east practice war as a hobby and their only export is oil and terrorists.

The USA is not the police or the saviours of the world so let them fight it out.

As history has taught us in the middle east a friend is not always a friend and often the side we pick to support is merely the lesser of 2 evils. Gee it kind of sounds like the upcoming elections.....
One word answer here: PETRODOLLAR
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:53 AM
 
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Erdogan is the culprit here. Russia disrupted his ISIS gun running racket.
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:07 AM
 
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One word answer here: PETRODOLLAR
But then you have to go into how the petrodollar affects their standard of living and when you get to that point you just get blank stares and cartoon responses (literally) so what's the point?
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