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Old 02-12-2016, 08:37 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Since when do we surrender to an inferior force on the open seas.
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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What if an Iranian navy vessel was found in our territorial waters? (Our ships were in their waters)

Aren't you people sick of endless war and confrontation yet. I am and so is my wallet.
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Open sea?

Not so much.

Still not clear why these two boats were in Iranian water. The initial reports of a broken boat was subsequently denied. Last I heard, it was being attributed to an unreported navigational error.

In other words, the crew screwed up and failed to report it. Under the reported circumstances, these boats were in no position to do much of anything but surrender.

Alls well that ends well and all that.

Sorry that anyone's self esteem is tied to this situation.
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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That whole story smelled like week old fish. How do two boats not know where they are with today's sophisticated electronic navigational equipment ? We were up to something and got caught, and the easiest route was to surrender and work it out diplomatically.

We will never know the real story here.

Don
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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That whole story smelled like week old fish. How do two boats not know where they are with today's sophisticated electronic navigational equipment ? We were up to something and got caught, and the easiest route was to surrender and work it out diplomatically.

We will never know the real story here.

Don
except the military uses old tech so they were probably rebooting WindowsXP or installing 23 of 1118 updates on their navigation equipment
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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That whole story smelled like week old fish. How do two boats not know where they are with today's sophisticated electronic navigational equipment ? We were up to something and got caught, and the easiest route was to surrender and work it out diplomatically.

We will never know the real story here.

Don
Reportedly the wrong data was punched into the GPS like thingy.
The knucklehead crews failed to report their mistake.

It does indeed smell fishy.

Having said this what possible motive would make more sense?
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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That whole story smelled like week old fish. How do two boats not know where they are with today's sophisticated electronic navigational equipment ?
GPS doesn't do you much good when the territorial boundaries are subject to ongoing disputes. The same situation occurred in 2007 when a Royal Navy small craft wandered into waters that have been in dispute for decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_I...Navy_personnel
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Since when do we surrender to an inferior force on the open seas.
In that moment, in their waters, the Iranians were not inferior. The US sailors stood down to save their lives.
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Since when do we surrender to an inferior force on the open seas.
Who says a stand down order was given?
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Old 02-12-2016, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Probably the transexual Muslim in the oval office! Amiright?

If only McCain were in office!


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