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Yes, because warning that the Supreme Court is there to interpret and apply laws as they are, and not through interpretation make or create new ones, is such an evil, hypocritical, agenda driven message.
Coming from a man with his history of legislating his own personal and political agenda from the bench, yes - it certainly is hypocritical. It'd be like Bill Clinton speaking out against infidelity.
Somehow I sense that the conservatives hate Ginsburg -- in addition to our Founding Fathers.
Mick
That's an excellent point. Yes, I completely agree with you - the Founding Fathers would have hated having a man like Scalia on the bench. He is absolutely not the kind of person they had in mind; he was exactly what they were trying to rid themselves of in government.
Are you guys still pouty over gay marriage? That's some impressive grudge-keeping.
I think Scalia's most memorable quote is this one:
Quote:
This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent
Consideration of actual innocence apparently just gets in the way of getting things done.
Somehow I sense that the liberals hate Scalia -- in addition to our Founding Fathers.
The "Founding Fathers" were liberal. Actually radical.
Ben Franklin, for example, was known for his liberalism. Thomas Jefferson was a Deist who reject organized religion. Thomas Paine was an out-and-out atheist.
Ben Franklin's son was a conservative. Like all conservatives in the colonies, he was loyal to the King of England and the royal laws and decrees of England. After the revolution he fled the United States. If Scalia was alive then he would have defended the King and his so-called divine rights of kings.
Greetings from Philadelphia, the birthplace of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the first Continental Congress.
For a man so brilliant is interesting to note his blindness to the internal contradiction or what he wrote:
Today’s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court.
It could just as well be seen in the light of the decree that 320 million people minus the family, friends and supporters of Gays and Lesbians couples had no constitutional right to rule over the personal lives of consenting adults who chose to pledge fidelity to one another and as a result receive the full benefits of such unions. It could be further argued that because the Constitution is silent on such matters that the court created no new liberties but simply recognized (as the decision did) that those liberties, while not recognized by statute have always existed. And finally it is more than a bit disingenuous to lay one's argument across a document that states:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Apparently, so brilliant that his wisdom escapes you, or that your beliefs prevent such understanding.
The man was simply following his pretty consistent pattern of being a constructionist conservative, which really was in everyone's best interests ... yes, even those too foolish or selfish to understand that.
He made clear that on the issue of gay marriage, it was the overreach of federal authority to dictate the matter to the states that troubled him, and not gay marriage itself. And he was absolutely correct in that the Constitution is first and foremost a very specific delegation of authority, which serves to limit federal powers to only those granted it by the states and the people, with all other powers retained by the states and the people.
I believe he also understood very well what many of you cannot seem to grasp, and that is in allowing the federal government to self servingly use these types of social issues as pretexts for such power grabs, what might be gained by the few, comes nowhere close to what surely is lost for all of us.
To the less sophisticated among us here, what this means is by not just allowing, but actually demanding the federal government act without constitutional authority, no matter the specific issue behind it, is playing right into the hands of a government which doesnt give one rats azz about that particular social issue, but cares only about establishing the precedent to override state laws whenever it desires ... Constitutional limits be damned.
Hence the truth and the purpose behind these compassionate acts to protect the the gays, the minorities, the small voices of special interests ... an unrestrained federal government that establishes the power to give you everything, also establishes the power to take everything away.
And how easy you make it for the power hungry tyrants to get their way. Like children, all they have to do is dangle a small bag of candy in front of you, and you do EXACTLY what they want you to do.
If liberals wiin and stack the court you can start to kiss your freedoms goodbye. Guns will be gone, illegals will have more rights than you, Muslims will flood into the country and so will Mexicans and people south of the boarder. Your daughter will have to shower with a transgender and you will have to let some gay couple have a wedding at your church if they wish it. Those who are lazy will be given money that those who worked hard to earn it made and the military will become the butt joke of the world.
If liberals wiin and stack the court you can start to kiss your freedoms goodbye. Guns will be gone, illegals will have more rights than you, Muslims will flood into the country and so will Mexicans and people south of the boarder. Your daughter will have to shower with a transgender and you will have to let some gay couple have a wedding at your church if they wish it. Those who are lazy will be given money that those who worked hard to earn it made and the military will become the butt joke of the world.
By any chance, are you in a rural cabin writing something you call a manifesto?
But I do like the daughter taking a shower with a transgender thing. Please expand on that.
The "Founding Fathers" were liberal. Actually radical.
Ben Franklin, for example, was known for his liberalism. Thomas Jefferson was a Deist who reject organized religion. Thomas Paine was an out-and-out atheist.
Ben Franklin's son was a conservative. Like all conservatives in the colonies, he was loyal to the King of England and the royal laws and decrees of England. After the revolution he fled the United States. If Scalia was alive then he would have defended the King and his so-called divine rights of kings.
Greetings from Philadelphia, the birthplace of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the first Continental Congress.
No doubt a product of public education, because the truth is, what is termed "Jeffersonian Liberalism" shares nothing in common with modern day Liberalism. Of course, its not your fault .... the dumbing down of the public, particularly in the areas of history and civics, has been a deliberate and ongoing effort for several decades.
Case in point, this nonsense about Franklin being loyal to king George is laughable considering the fact that he was signatory on the Declaration of Independence, which was a virtual death sentence had the war of independence been lost.
It was he, Ben Franklin that said:
We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." -In the Continental Congress just before signing
the Declaration of Independence, 1776
He did not "flee" to England, but spent most of his time during the war, in France, securing financial assistance from France for the revolution. And it's highly doubtful that we would have won our Independence without Franklin's diplomatic efforts.
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