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My stance? Fat old men in govt office and religious extremists need to let women deal with their own bodies. A fetus is not a person until the brain is developed and the baby can survive outside the womb on it's own and abortion should be allowed to that point.
Just like "Fat old men and religious extremists" don't get to decide what a woman can do with her body, you don't get to decide when a person is a person.
I'm neither fat nor a religious extremist, in fact I am a scientist and I know that it is at conception that a human life begins. Abortion ends that life, therefore abortion is killing a human life. Any other interpretation of when a human life begins is either astonishing ignorance or self delusion.
Once a woman becomes pregnant, she becomes the caretaker of another human life. She is the shelterer and the nurturer of that life, that life is completely dependent on that woman.
Just like "Fat old men and religious extremists" don't get to decide what a woman can do with her body, you don't get to decide when a person is a person.
I'm neither fat nor a religious extremist, in fact I am a scientist and I know that it is at conception that a human life begins. Abortion ends that life, therefore abortion is killing a human life. Any other interpretation of when a human life begins is either astonishing ignorance or self delusion.
Once a woman becomes pregnant, she becomes the caretaker of another human life. She is the shelterer and the nurturer of that life, that life is completely dependent on that woman.
Not her body. Its the baby's body that just so happens to be inside the mother. Two bodies joined together.
Just like "Fat old men and religious extremists" don't get to decide what a woman can do with her body, you don't get to decide when a person is a person.
I'm neither fat nor a religious extremist, in fact I am a scientist and I know that it is at conception that a human life begins. Abortion ends that life, therefore abortion is killing a human life. Any other interpretation of when a human life begins is either astonishing ignorance or self delusion.
Once a woman becomes pregnant, she becomes the caretaker of another human life. She is the shelterer and the nurturer of that life, that life is completely dependent on that woman.
Right, and it is precisely because it is completely dependent on HER and only her that it has all the legal rights of a parasite on a federal level and she is not legally beholden to it protect its life in any. There is no law on the books that says that a woman has to be the caretaker of a life even when it's OUTSIDE of her body; that is why we have safe houses.
Parasites are dependent on a specific host. Babies and infants may be dependent for survival, but not on a specific person. A fetus is therefore not a baby.
Abortion is legal. Even when you take away clean and monitored facilities, you still fail to prevent abortions. Why? For a simple reason: it is her body. All human beings have sovereignty over their own bodies. It is a law of nature.
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Right, and it is precisely because it is completely dependent on HER and only her that it is legally a parasite and she is not legally beholden to it protect its life in any way until it is viable.
Parasites are dependent on a specific host. Babies and infants may be dependent for survival, but not on a specific person. A fetus is therefore not a baby.
Abortion is legal. Even when you take away clean and monitored facilities, you still fail to prevent abortions. Why? For a simple reason: it is her body. All human beings have sovereignty over their own bodies. It is a law of nature.
I'm not for outlawing abortion for the simple fact that women will still seek them.
Btw, can you show me any legal literature that describes a fetus as a parasite? I would love to see what moronic legislature compares a gestating fetus to a botfly.
It's fairly interesing to me that it is conservative men in conservative states who will increasingly end up like Leonardo DiCaprio at the end of Revolutionary Road; sitting on a bench, contemplating their dead wife who bled out from a hanger-induced abortion.
Meanwhile, liberal men living in states where abortion clinics are not under attack, their wives will just continue to live and be their wives, as they do now with their higher lifespans on average.
Well, one reaps what one sows. Perhaps it is for the best. I don't really care what happens to women in Oklahoma anyway, it's a backwards state.
I'm not for outlawing abortion for the simple fact that women will still seek them.
Btw, can you show me any legal literature that describes a fetus as a parasite? I would love to see what moronic legislature compares a gestating fetus to a botfly.
Precisely, women will always seek them. You either address it like all other first-world countries, or you address it like women address it in Congo. It's a simple matter of pragmatism.
A fetus legally has no more rights than a parasite, is what I modified my comment to say (before I had read your reply).
Further, if you are a scientist as you claim (and let's face it, people make all sorts of claims on the internet), then you should be aware that the medical term for miscarriage is in fact missed abortion. The most common reason for miscarriage is chromosomal abnormalities. The human body has all the regard for a first trimester fetus that US federal law does, literally aborting it simply because it's defective and not good enough in as many as 25% of pregnancies. That's pretty funny to me.
LOL, good job trolling, Medellin Paisa. It's been an entertaining read.
Lol, right? Too funny.
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