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Old 09-01-2018, 09:42 AM
 
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“None are more blind than those who refuse to see”

I ddin't know you are blind.
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:45 AM
 
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Any way you want to spin it - this is historic.

NEVER has impeachment support been 10 points higher than approval rating(s)....

The only real question here is how quickly the reasonable Trumpies decide to dump support for him. There is a slow drip drip drip as the non-deplorables (Trump voters who are decent people at heart) see him for what he really is....

And today - we have testimony that Donald approved a potential meeting with Putin ahead of the election!

Think about it this way. What we see and what we know is only the tip of the iceberg. I suppose Comey and Mueller and even the treasonous Republicans in Congress who won't hold Trump to ANY standard...knew all of this long ago.

But when we, the average joes and janes, start seeing it....wow!

On one hand I am pleased to see some of the truth come out. On the other hand I am certain many traitors will get away with their crimes.....so all in all, I am ambivalent. It would take a moral and ethical change in our voters to really fix our system - as it stands, too many of them approve of crime, graft and the swamp.

I'd bet MOST of those "youngest person in the house" don't even KNOW what impeachment is.
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:50 AM
 
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If you aren't aware of how things went down, perhaps you should read Comey's book. It's a page turner.

As far as the "pleasure of the president", Trump certainly did what he was legally capable of doing. Everything that is legal, however, is not alweays ethically or morally correct. At one point in history, slavery was legal.

Firing him via tweet is the trademark of a coward, but we already knew that. Trump is a notorious chicken**** when he doesn't get his way.

BTW - crickets aren't bad, if you roast them long enough to be crunchy, so the legs don't stick in your teeth.
You're welcome.
" via tweet is the trademark of a coward"

" Trump is a notorious chicken**** when he doesn't get his way."

A LOT less then Obama who, when he KNEW he couldn't get what he wanted through Congress, used his Executive Orders/Memorandums to get HS WAY!

"I have a pen and a phone"

Why, because you DON'T like it when Trump uses it to BYPASS the filtered Lame Stream Media?

Tweeting has replaced former ways of communicating.

Your claim would be like "I saw it on TV" when most people didn't have TVs and radio was the PRIME source of news.

Times change. It is time you got USED to the NEW ways communicating.

"Those that fall behind technologically, WILL BE LOST"
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Old 09-01-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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while not at his worse ( -21% dec 15, 2017 ) trump has taken a huge hit these past few days in his RCP job approval average. after being relatively stagnant all summer, he's gone from a -8.1 on aug 10 to a -11.9 today.


approval: 42.2%


disapproval: 54.1%
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Old 09-01-2018, 11:05 AM
 
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while not at his worse ( -21% dec 15, 2017 ) trump has taken a huge hit these past few days in his RCP job approval average. after being relatively stagnant all summer, he's gone from a -8.1 on aug 10 to a -11.9 today.
approval: 42.2%
disapproval: 54.1%
Indeed...and at fivethirtyeight

Approval: 40.3%
Disapproval: 54.5%

And a recent ABC Poll has his disapproval at 60% *ouch* https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-co...estigation.pdf
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Old 09-01-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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Indeed...and at fivethirtyeight

fascinating to see trump's approval compared with the other POTUS. while true that trump is at a similar place as several past presidents, all of them had successes bringing them over 50% approval. trump has never had that. he started at suck and settled in.
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Old 09-01-2018, 12:07 PM
 
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Trump's Approval Number Nose-Dives, Dems' Blue Wave Might Be Building: IBD/TIPP Poll

Trump approval drops 5 and disapproval rises by 3 since last month.

36% Approve 56% Disapprove; only 33% of Independents Approve

https://www.investors.com/politics/t...ibd-tipp-poll/

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Old 09-01-2018, 12:09 PM
 
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Independent and completely disapprove of Trump!!!
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Old 09-01-2018, 12:12 PM
 
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fascinating to see trump's approval compared with the other POTUS. while true that trump is at a similar place as several past presidents, all of them had successes bringing them over 50% approval. trump has never had that. he started at suck and settled in.
True, and I don't think there has ever been a President who had so little crossover support or such a small amount of support from independents. He probably has more partisan support than any president in recent history but it just doesn't seem to extend beyond the Republican party.
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Old 09-01-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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last poll that mattered was held on Nov 6th, 2016.
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