Would you date a woman who turned out to be a feminist? (carry, religion)
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I takes a real man to date a feminist. A lot of you don't qualify.
...or care to.
To me a feminist, as the term is used today, is simply a woman who doesn`t understand herself or her nature and fails to find joy in life because she is trying to be something she is not, something she cannot be, and, if she understood herself, wouldn`t want to be.
In short, feminism, as the traditional use of the word would bring us to understand feminism, is everything it claims it is not.
At its root, it is both matriarchy and patriarchy treating women as second-class citizens through non-traditional expressions of very traditional gender role restrictions and expectations.
The mode of implementation is different, but the aim is the same.
Instead of female circumcision as practiced by African mothers and grandmothers to ensure their daughters and granddaughters land Mr. Right, American feminists use abortion to keep women unattached and available for Mr. Right with uncompromised vaginas, firm breasts and abs free of stretch marks.
Traditional **** shaming, used in the past by not-so-hot women to dry up the sex market with the intent of driving un-laid men their way, used to take the form of malicious gossip and rumor mongering concerning the sexual exploits of prettier women.
Today it takes the form of ever clearer and ever more awkward and uncomfortable verbal consent to each and every level of intimacy paired with an implied threat of rape charges in the absence of this specific spoken permission leading to a sexual buzz-kill that couldn`t be any more penis shriveling if your parents were in the room.
The ages-old you break it, you buy it rule still applies to men, but there is no need for shotgun weddings today since the courts simply throw men who never wanted children in what is effectively men`s only debtor`s prison if they fail to pay what is demanded.
Bottom line: feminists treat women as children incapable of managing their own affairs while men are held to a very high standard of accountability.
Traditional feminism is both matriarchy and patriarchy on steroids, cross-dressed as progressive intellectualism and self-identified as somehow genuine.
Are you saying that a woman who decides to follow the lead of her male partner is necessarily "ignorant" and "exploited"?
Not if its occasionally. But if it's constantly and especially about important things like politics and who to vote for and generally personal decisions and opinions grown adults shouldn't be surrendering to someone else---hell yeah.
To me a feminist, as the term is used today, is simply a woman who doesn`t understand herself or her nature and fails to find joy in life because she is trying to be something she is not, something she cannot be, and, if she understood herself, wouldn`t want to be.
In short, feminism, as the traditional use of the word would bring us to understand feminism, is everything it claims it is not.
At its root, it is both matriarchy and patriarchy treating women as second-class citizens through non-traditional expressions of very traditional gender role restrictions and expectations.
The mode of implementation is different, but the aim is the same.
Instead of female circumcision as practiced by African mothers and grandmothers to ensure their daughters and granddaughters land Mr. Right, American feminists use abortion to keep women unattached and available for Mr. Right with uncompromised vaginas, firm breasts and abs free of stretch marks.
Traditional **** shaming, used in the past by not-so-hot women to dry up the sex market with the intent of driving un-laid men their way, used to take the form of malicious gossip and rumor mongering concerning the sexual exploits of prettier women.
Today it takes the form of ever clearer and ever more awkward and uncomfortable verbal consent to each and every level of intimacy paired with an implied threat of rape charges in the absence of this specific spoken permission leading to a sexual buzz-kill that couldn`t be any more penis shriveling if your parents were in the room.
The ages-old you break it, you buy it rule still applies to men, but there is no need for shotgun weddings today since the courts simply throw men who never wanted children in what is effectively men`s only debtor`s prison if they fail to pay what is demanded.
Bottom line: feminists treat women as children incapable of managing their own affairs while men are held to a very high standard of accountability.
Traditional feminism is both matriarchy and patriarchy on steroids, cross-dressed as progressive intellectualism and self-identified as somehow genuine.
Excellent post! I wonder how many self described feminists (male and female both) will consider it with an open mind.
The irony is that feminism USED to advocate telling women it's OK to want a career and not be a stay at home mom and now modern feminists will be the first to criticize and ridicule any woman who CHOOSES to be a stay at home mom
Let's say you've been dating a woman for a little while and at some point you have a conversation with her during which she reveals out that she's a feminist. So, you ask her what she means by that in order to clarify (feminism of course can mean different things depending on the weather) and it turns out that she is in fact an actual feminist (as opposed to saying it as a careless comment).
Would you continue seeing her, even if it's just casually? Or what would you do?
For arguments sake, I'll assume that the woman I'm dating is an "actual" feminist, with "actual" feminist being defined as:
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adjective, Sometimes, feministic 1. advocating social, political, legal, and economic rights for women equal to those of men.
Sounds like a person I'd want to continue seeing. We would already have a lot in common, since we would both agree that it makes no sense - nor is it just - that women don't already universally have and enjoy the same social, political, legal, and economic rights equal to those of men.
Not if its occasionally. But if it's constantly and especially about important things like politics and who to vote for and generally personal decisions and opinions grown adults shouldn't be surrendering to someone else---hell yeah.
Excellent post! I wonder how many self described feminists (male and female both) will consider it with an open mind.
The irony is that feminism USED to advocate telling women it's OK to want a career and not be a stay at home mom and now modern feminists will be the first to criticize and ridicule any woman who CHOOSES to be a stay at home mom
Let's say you've been dating a woman for a little while and at some point you have a conversation with her during which she reveals out that she's a feminist. So, you ask her what she means by that in order to clarify (feminism of course can mean different things depending on the weather) and it turns out that she is in fact an actual feminist (as opposed to saying it as a careless comment).
Would you continue seeing her, even if it's just casually? Or what would you do?
Mod note May 12, 2016: Folks, this thread started out as a relationships topic but quickly turned into more of a P&OC-type of debate, not really discussing the questions posed in this opening post. Because the thread continues to generate much discussion, it would be a shame to close it down at this juncture. It is therefore being moved to the P&OC forum. PJS
Date? I may... as I'm not in it for her brain.
She gets all high and mighty I may roll her over and give her a good ass ****ing and then tell her she liked it.
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