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A wall along our southern or any other border is nothing but corporate welfare for the wall builders and contract guards. Otherwise completely useless. If we want to reduce illegal immigration we have to eliminate the economics that induce people to enter this country. The easiest way to accomplish that is to fine the businesses employing these illegals as well as sending the executives to jail. We could start with a through investigation of the Trump owned or labeled casinos and hotels. Eliminate the incentives and we eliminate the attraction.
Building a wall is a waste of time, effort and money.
Nope.
We will build the wall and we will throw them out.
No more talk. We need action. We need TRUMP.
Should we just put a giant wall around the entire country and end all outside connections via airports to make America secure? I love this magical unicorn right wingers ride around on with this idea of a wall somehow fixing all their problems.
they forgot ---so how will their kids will get their drugs and the men their sex slaves and the women their cheap house maids ?
Nope.
We will build the wall and we will throw them out.
No more talk. We need action. We need TRUMP.
You do realize that a wall isn't gonna stop people from building tunnels right? Thumping your chest and roaring isn't gonna scare people anymore. Think, man! Your first mistake is to take anything Trump says like it came out of Jesus's mouth.
You do realize that a wall isn't gonna stop people from building tunnels right? Thumping your chest and roaring isn't gonna scare people anymore. Think, man! Your first mistake is to take anything Trump says like it came out of Jesus's mouth.
Hardly. I just want a wall. And I want the criminal invaders out of my country.
We will make the wall and they won't be able to go over it or under it.
You do realize that a wall isn't gonna stop people from building tunnels right? Thumping your chest and roaring isn't gonna scare people anymore. Think, man! Your first mistake is to take anything Trump says like it came out of Jesus's mouth.
You do realize what is happening today - catch and release! Simply supporting our border guards is 1,000% better than giving them the finger for doing their job. It takes time to dig tunnels, when border guards have the support of their own government and with better surveillance; it would be easy to discourage people from wasting the time on tunnels.
By the way; you do remember the Berlin Wall? How many tunnels do you remember under that wall? Of course there were some; but nowhere near the number that have been built on our Southern border. The primary reason was that the East Germans constantly looked for tunnels. There was strict punishment or worse if they got caught. That wall worked for the East Germans for 28 years.
You do realize what is happening today - catch and release! Simply supporting our border guards is 1,000% better than giving them the finger for doing their job. It takes time to dig tunnels, when border guards have the support of their own government and with better surveillance; it would be easy to discourage people from wasting the time on tunnels.
By the way; you do remember the Berlin Wall? How many tunnels do you remember under that wall? Of course there were some; but nowhere near the number that have been built on our Southern border. The primary reason was that the East Germans constantly looked for tunnels. There was strict punishment or worse if they got caught. That wall worked for the East Germans for 28 years.
So how are you going to patrol more than 1000 miles of wall for tunnels? Keeping in mind that Bush authorized funding for motion sensors, yet tunnels are still being dug?
Yes I do remember the Berlin Wall. It kept my family hemmed into East Berlin for a long time. People still got through the wall. That one was tiny in comparison to the US-Mexico border. Oh yeah, I seem to remember 2 EU territories surrounded by a double wall and people still manage to get through and evade detection; Ceuta and Melilla.
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Hardly. I just want a wall. And I want the criminal invaders out of my country.
We will make the wall and they won't be able to go over it or under it.
You want a wall to satisfy some base psychological need. A 1000+ mile wall to maintain is a logistical nightmare, and building one in the first place is a political nightmare. So much so, that Trump originally proposed a 2000 mile wall, but now realizes it's not practical, so he shortened it to 1000 miles. Knowing him, he'll probably shorten it again when reality becomes clearer, just like his cost estimate for the wall goes up a couple billion every debate
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I would be for a wall. That being said, the "wall" doesn't always have to be a physical one along the entire border. Will it stop everyone? Of course not, but it is time we actually did something instead of just talk about it and ignore current laws.
To solve the problem of illegals (and it is a very pressing issue that has personally impacted me), the wall is just one part of the solution. We need to strongly enforce the laws we already have on the books, increase our border patrol, send back anyone who has been involved in criminal activity (never to return), e-verify, gain tighter control of the visa process, pressure Mexico to help. These solutions have been "talked" about for years yet nothing happens.
I would be for a wall. That being said, the "wall" doesn't always have to be a physical one along the entire border. Will it stop everyone? Of course not, but it is time we actually did something instead of just talk about it and ignore current laws.
To solve the problem of illegals (and it is a very pressing issue that has personally impacted me), the wall is just one part of the solution. We need to strongly enforce the laws we already have on the books, increase our border patrol, send back anyone who has been involved in criminal activity (never to return), e-verify, gain tighter control of the visa process, pressure Mexico to help. These solutions have been "talked" about for years yet nothing happens.
More than half the problem, if not almost all, would take care of itself following the bold above and it's a hell of a lot cheaper and easier than a wall. A wall is just a band-aid, you need stitches for this. A wall is the right-wing version of a 10 round magazine limit on guns, it's stupid and all about the feel good and to say you did something without actually solving the root problem
Yes, no natural born Amurrrican ever ever committed a crime. There was no rape, robbery, drugs, no crime WHATSOEVER.
There will not be a wall, there will not be funding for a wall from Mexico or the US Congress. You people are addicted to the koolade.
Not a mention of shutting down businesses who hire the undocumented. Why is that?
Are you kidding me? Those of us who are anti-illegal immigration are always talking about going after the employers who hire them. The House GOP introduced a bill last year to mandate e-verify. By the way they aren't the "undocumented" they are illegal aliens.
Why use slur words for American? Trying to be cute? What does the fact that Americans commit crimes have to do with our right to enforce our immigration laws? Since we do have our own home grown criminals does that mean we have to accept the crimes of illegal aliens also?
With the right president in the White House they will make sure that the 700 miles of wall will be built. Enjoy your own Kool-Aid.
Illegals costs us billions a year. The wall will pay for itself in no time.
A wall wont pay for itself, IMO a wall wont work, its a huge gamble at best. Stopping illegal immigration will save money not building the wall you are making a leap. I find it interesting that the biggest proponents of a wall are Trump supporters, whose slogan is make america great again, one of the ways that America became great was the space race, the goverment awarded contracts to private industry to provide solutions in turn private companies came up with new innovative ways to solve those problems many technologies were developed out this dynamic, technologies which helped america be the leader for many decades. This is the same scenario why not dangle the 12B, 20B carrot in front of private industry to innovate.
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