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Old 04-18-2016, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Bodymore, Murderland
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As a Korean-American, I can't just waltz into an Italian restaurant demanding they prepare me a meal of Kimchi and Bulgogi. This is in effect what gay couples are forcing Christian bakeries to do. If gays want a gay wedding cake they need to go to a place that makes them.
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:49 AM
 
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Oh, please.

"He wouldn't bake me a gay wedding cake" --- WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

The end of the world has arrived!

Someone disagrees with me -- the horror!

I need to go to my safe space!

Someone please call James Madison and Thomas Jefferson!

To the barricades!

All for one and one for all!

LOL
Oh my God you're cracking me up here

We all know how this goes-
They target Christian businesses just
to harass them, get publicity & ultimately
try to shut them down.
Time to take a stand
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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Leftists are thieves, scammers, welchers and charlatans.
I forgot to include deadbeats and liars.
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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As a Korean-American, I can't just waltz into an Italian restaurant demanding they prepare me a meal of Kimchi and Bulgogi. This is in effect what gay couples are forcing Christian bakeries to do. If gays want a gay wedding cake they need to go to a place that makes them.
Actually, it's like being Korean and ordering spaghetti from that Italian restaurant, and they refuse by saying "we're not selling spaghetti to you since you're going to eat it in a Korean household".
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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It's difficult to sort out their hypocrisy. Please help.

- Tim Cook: It's OK for Apple to do business with countries that execute men for being homosexual, but it's not OK for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual couple in the USA.

- Bruce Springsteen: It's OK for me to refuse to do business with people I don't agree with, but it's not OK for a baker to refuse to do business with people he doesn't agree with.

- Paypal: It's OK for us to do business with countries who execute transgender people but it's not OK for NC to tell transgender people which restroom they must use.

- Barbara Boxer: When the Pope speaks about Global Warming Catholics should listen to him. But when the Pope speaks about abortion, he is wrong and Catholics should not listen to him.

But Springsteen's ignorance is quite amusing. He doesn't even know the difference between and American Indian and somebody from the country of India.

"I mean, it's 2016, who still says they're Indian? This isn't 19th century America, we recognize these people are actually Native Americans," said Springsteen, adding "if Governor Haley wants to disrespect herself that's her business, but I will not play another concert in South Carolina as long as she's governor if she doesn't start using the proper term 'Native American.'"

While she is a natural born American citizen Governor Haley's parents are immigrants from India, a fact that did little to change Springsteen's view on the matter.

Said an indignant Springsteen, "you mean there's a whole country of people who still think like this? Well, that's just one more place that will never be blessed enough to host a concert by me! Equality for all is too important an issue, and anyone who doesn't stand for equality doesn't stand with me, The Boss."

Maybe this sums it up for us;
This isn't all that complex.

Tim Cook: The laws of the United States do not apply to the rest of the world, and it's inappropriate for Apple, a business, to behave as if they do.

Bruce Springsteen: I operate my business within the parameters of the law, and bakers should also do that. For those of you too thick to get it, bakers are businesses and apply for licenses and sign papers contractually obligating them to operate their businesses according to the laws of the states within which they operate. If they break the law, they pay the penalty for breaking the law.

Paypal: We recognize that the location of a business has an impact on our employees, and for that reason we consider what that impact might be, and we locate our businesses accordingly.

Barbara Boxer: The Pope has taken some positions which I agree with and some positions which I don't agree with.

None of the above is hypocritical.

Is it hypocritical on your part to question Apple and Springsteen regarding their business choices, while at the same time defending the baker's freedom to choose who to do business with?
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:36 AM
 
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It's difficult to sort out their hypocrisy. Please help.

- Tim Cook: It's OK for Apple to do business with countries that execute men for being homosexual, but it's not OK for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual couple in the USA.

- Bruce Springsteen: It's OK for me to refuse to do business with people I don't agree with, but it's not OK for a baker to refuse to do business with people he doesn't agree with.

- Paypal: It's OK for us to do business with countries who execute transgender people but it's not OK for NC to tell transgender people which restroom they must use.

- Barbara Boxer: When the Pope speaks about Global Warming Catholics should listen to him. But when the Pope speaks about abortion, he is wrong and Catholics should not listen to him.

But Springsteen's ignorance is quite amusing. He doesn't even know the difference between and American Indian and somebody from the country of India.

"I mean, it's 2016, who still says they're Indian? This isn't 19th century America, we recognize these people are actually Native Americans," said Springsteen, adding "if Governor Haley wants to disrespect herself that's her business, but I will not play another concert in South Carolina as long as she's governor if she doesn't start using the proper term 'Native American.'"

While she is a natural born American citizen Governor Haley's parents are immigrants from India, a fact that did little to change Springsteen's view on the matter.

Said an indignant Springsteen, "you mean there's a whole country of people who still think like this? Well, that's just one more place that will never be blessed enough to host a concert by me! Equality for all is too important an issue, and anyone who doesn't stand for equality doesn't stand with me, The Boss."

Maybe this sums it up for us;
Good luck!!!
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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Lol.....Bruce is an official has been......
Time for him to go buy some
Geritol, Viagra & ben gay

No one cares about his political agenda
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Old 04-18-2016, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Athol, Idaho
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Hollywood people are not our smartest people and here's one more example of why we shouldn't admire them so much.
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Old 04-18-2016, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Is it hypocritical on your part to question Apple and Springsteen regarding their business choices, while at the same time defending the baker's freedom to choose who to do business with?
I'm all for Apple, PayPal, Springsteen and Bakers to refuse service. I'm completely egalitarian. I'm also all for people who are refused service from suing those companies, under the proviso that the principle is applied equally that the actions discriminated unfairly against a an individual or group of people based on general characteristics or behaviors and not individual characteristics or behaviors. I'm also all in favor of not permitting suing companies for not serving people at their discretion. It's got to be one or the other. In the former Apple, PayPal or Springsteen would be eligible for being the subject of a lawsuit, in the latter even the Bakers would not.

Problem is that the 1964 CRA proves pretty conclusively you cannot legislate tolerance. You can legislate against what are perceived as intolerant behaviors, but given that college graduates at the time of the CRA being enacted are within 5 years from the Maximum US life expectancy, if there was going to be a change in people's actual tolerance caused by the CRA, then it would be obsolete and we could repeal it, right? Clearly we cannot, and as time passes the chances of changing peoples degrees of tolerance are not increasing, I think we can state that laws do not produce tolerance. So, what's the definition of insanity...?
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:52 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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It's difficult to sort out their hypocrisy. Please help.

- Tim Cook: It's OK for Apple to do business with countries that execute men for being homosexual, but it's not OK for a baker to refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual couple in the USA.

- Bruce Springsteen: It's OK for me to refuse to do business with people I don't agree with, but it's not OK for a baker to refuse to do business with people he doesn't agree with.

- Paypal: It's OK for us to do business with countries who execute transgender people but it's not OK for NC to tell transgender people which restroom they must use.

- Barbara Boxer: When the Pope speaks about Global Warming Catholics should listen to him. But when the Pope speaks about abortion, he is wrong and Catholics should not listen to him.

But Springsteen's ignorance is quite amusing. He doesn't even know the difference between and American Indian and somebody from the country of India.

"I mean, it's 2016, who still says they're Indian? This isn't 19th century America, we recognize these people are actually Native Americans," said Springsteen, adding "if Governor Haley wants to disrespect herself that's her business, but I will not play another concert in South Carolina as long as she's governor if she doesn't start using the proper term 'Native American.'"

While she is a natural born American citizen Governor Haley's parents are immigrants from India, a fact that did little to change Springsteen's view on the matter.

Said an indignant Springsteen, "you mean there's a whole country of people who still think like this? Well, that's just one more place that will never be blessed enough to host a concert by me! Equality for all is too important an issue, and anyone who doesn't stand for equality doesn't stand with me, The Boss."

Maybe this sums it up for us;
Both liberals and conservatives do this. Some liberals practice hypocrisy in their personal lives, and all republicans practice hypocrisy in government.

The republicans claim to be the party of Jesus, and yet they oppose food stamps and welfare (Jesus' most basic teachings.) And republicans desire a strong and aggressive military (Jesus highly opposed war and fighting.) And Jesus said to love everyone but the republicans hate Muslims, homosexuals, and South American immigrants.

Republicans claim to be pro-business, but they block small business tax cuts and lending programs.
Republicans block small-business tax break on procedural vote - latimes
Republicans block small business plan in Senate | Reuters

Republicans claim to hate communism, but they vote to move US jobs to Communist China.
Senate Republicans Vote Against American Jobs By Blocking Bill To End Outsourcing Tax Breaks

ex.ex.ex.

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