Obama to announce that all schools have to allow transgender bathroom usage (claim, vote)
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Persons tat have had their sexual organs changed should use the restrooms with the appropriate plumbing. Even male restrooms with the wall of urinals have some privacy and female restrooms have individual cubicles. If privacy is the main concern the male restrooms could simply make the partitions between the urinals larger.
Note- people that have these operations have considered themselves to be the sex they were changed to accommodate. One could consider that female oriented men transgendered into females have been using male restrooms most of their lives. Male oriented females have been doing the same.
I think this debate is an attempt by the conservative religious right to force their views that transgender operations are almost as evil as abortion and should be prevented, along with any legal accommodation, by the force of government. My opinion is if your religious beliefs consider a particular act evil then do not do that act yourself. Do not try to use law to force the rest of us to go along with your beliefs.
Some people are so lost, they are willing to circumvent reality if they can see a way to blame the "religious right".
The good news is when you see such a foolish leap of logic, you can write off that person's opinion for the remainder of the discussion as they are obviously delusional.
1. Transgenders are not the problem. Perverts and rapists using this as a way to be to their pray easier is the issue.
2. Bathrooms alone are not the problem, there are stalls and Transgenders will use those like they always have. Who will know? A transgender isn't using a urinal in a men's bathroom anyways.
3. The problem is locker rooms where men walk around nude and the showers. I assume women do the same. I might have to be a women today and check to make sure��.
4. Bathrooms in locker rooms are problematic. I.e. point 1 and 3.
5. A 6 ft 5 lady called into spkandlish's radio show today. She is a biological women truck driver who now is treated as a leper in the ladies room because some think she is a man. What happens if violence comes to her because of this or the law gets called on her? Does she need to show the goods to prove she is a women?
We have gone down the rabbit hole. Don't ask don't tell has been the unwritten rule forever on this issue. It should have stayed that way.
Persons tat have had their sexual organs changed should use the restrooms with the appropriate plumbing. Even male restrooms with the wall of urinals have some privacy and female restrooms have individual cubicles. If privacy is the main concern the male restrooms could simply make the partitions between the urinals larger.
Note- people that have these operations have considered themselves to be the sex they were changed to accommodate. One could consider that female oriented men transgendered into females have been using male restrooms most of their lives. Male oriented females have been doing the same.
I think this debate is an attempt by the conservative religious right to force their views that transgender operations are almost as evil as abortion and should be prevented, along with any legal accommodation, by the force of government. My opinion is if your religious beliefs consider a particular act evil then do not do that act yourself. Do not try to use law to force the rest of us to go along with your beliefs.
You're missing the point. The Obama edict applies to transgenders who have not yet completed sex reassignment surgery, so what this does is allows those with penises into girls'/women's multiple occupancy restrooms/changing/locker/shower rooms, and vice versa.
And there's also no definitive identification of who is or who is not transgender. What's the criteria to identify someone as such? Merely someone's "say so" about themselves? And who is monitoring access to facilities to make sure that only those who actually ARE transgender are admitted to the facilities?
What ever happened to the old adage "You can't please everybody all of the time"?
Here we are saying to the 99.5% of the population "Tough **** if you feel uncomfortable, we are going to please the .05%".
If you're 12 year old daughter has a problem getting changed for the pool while standing next to a penis, then obviously you have raised her to be intolerant and bigoted.
It's just so unfair. Next thing you know, transgenders will be allowed in the Olympics and women will never be able to compete.
The Olympics has strict rules before letting a male compete as a female. It's not as though a male can simply declare himself as identifying as female and compete against women.
The Olympics has strict rules before letting a male compete as a female. It's not as though a male can simply declare himself as identifying as female and compete against women.
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