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Old 05-27-2016, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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This didn't open a can of worms except to the extreme right, a trip to Hiroshima was long overdue. Time for nations to move forward and learn lessons from the past to make the world a better place.You heard his speech (I hope), what is the issue, even WW2 veterans from both sides meet at Pearl Harbor what gives these people the right to criticize the president.


He also visited Vietnam, do you take issue with that also. Vietnamese civilians were killed in that world also, can of worms?
Hey, didn't I say this is a nice gesture? Is it enough for you? Since you asked, I will try my best to answer.

My boyfriend's grandpa fought the Japanese during ww2, he understood soldiers have to do what soldiers have to do. I also know a guy who lost his dad in ww2, he still has problems with anything Jpanese including the cars. I am sure he would be offended by this tour. who am I to tell people to get over it, I understand both men, or try to understand both kind of emotion.

People like you, always have to make it political. I like president Obama, and won't use every opportunity to attack him personally. But war is still very personal to a lot of people. That is all I am saying. It has nothing to do with liberal vs conservative.
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Old 05-27-2016, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Houston
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...... what gives these people the right to criticize the President?
The 1st Amendment. Try reading the Constitution sometime.

To be more precise it is a natural right protected by the 1st Amendment.

I had a great-uncle killed at PearlHarbor. They started it. We finished it. No kissing ass over Hiroshima should be done.

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Old 05-27-2016, 05:17 PM
 
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Anybody notice that the lamestream Republicans gave Trump absolutely no credit for backing down Kim Jong Un?
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Old 05-27-2016, 05:22 PM
 
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Hey, didn't I say this is a nice gesture? Is it enough for you? Since you asked, I will try my best to answer.

My boyfriend's grandpa fought the Japanese during ww2, he understood soldiers have to do what soldiers have to do. I also know a guy who lost his dad in ww2, he still has problems with anything Jpanese including the cars. I am sure he would be offended by this tour. who am I to tell people to get over it, I understand both men, or try to understand both kind of emotion.

People like you, always have to make it political. I like president Obama, and won't use every opportunity to attack him personally. But war is still very personal to a lot of people. That is all I am saying. It has nothing to do with liberal vs conservative.
I can follow why some people can be offended. What's purely political, or being misinformed, is claiming that Obama apologized for U.S. actions in WW II.
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Old 05-27-2016, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Anybody notice that the lamestream Republicans gave Trump absolutely no credit for backing down Kim Jong Un?
No.
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Old 05-27-2016, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I can follow why some people can be offended. What's purely political, or being misinformed, is claiming that Obama apologized for U.S. actions in WW II.
I agree with you. I think maybe in 30-50 years, nobody would care about hiroshima. Time heals all wound. well, most.

the poster goodnight said the visit is long overdue, in my opinion, it is still a little premature, but this is just my opinion. I was born in 1985, when I reach retirement age, I think nobody would care anymore.
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Old 05-27-2016, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I can follow why some people can be offended. What's purely political, or being misinformed, is claiming that Obama apologized for U.S. actions in WW II.
I will agree with the writer of the article originally linked; Obama did not explicitly apologize. However it was certainly implied the bombing was something to be ashamed of. The ass kisser in chief. What can I say?
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Old 05-27-2016, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I will agree with the writer of the article originally linked; Obama did not explicitly apologize. However it was certainly implied the bombing was something to be ashamed of. The ass kisser in chief. What can I say?
The problem is that he should be over here laying wreaths on the graves of our solders that died in WWII and other wars. We just do not see him going out of his way to thank or grieve for those that fought and died for our Country. We also do not see him speaking up for our police departments or visiting their graves. He picks inappropriate times to honor the wrong groups. Besides; we dropped the bomb on Aug. 6th, 1945; not the end of May! The only thing he accomplished in Japan was to put down more American veterans.
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Old 05-27-2016, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Japan
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You would prefer that Obama recite a list Japanese war crimes in his speech at the Hiroshima memorial? Seriously?
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Old 05-27-2016, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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right. he just said America was evil.
No, he didn't say that, either. He indicated that war was evil.
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