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Old 05-27-2016, 11:50 AM
 
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That's not an apology.
are you playing echo today? that's what I said. "Obama did not applogize today"


my exact words.
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Partly true. No one cares much for imperialists. We are now the world's biggest aggressor nation. We should not be wasting time apologizing for defending ourselves but getting out of the ME. Heck, I would go farther and remove most of the troops from Europe.

I do not think you can fairly our actions with Japan's. I am almost certain much of the hate my father in law felt for the Japanese was due to the abuse of female relatives. It was quite personal. I am sure those who have relatives killed in drone strikes feel the same.
yeah. I agree with you. Too personal for a lot of people. I guess in thousands years, most will forget.

That is why I don't think this tour is good for anybody.
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Houston
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There's something endearing about those "apology" posts, isn't there? No apology whatsoever, but it just doesn't matter - there's a deep emotional attachment to the idea of an apology, and no amount of fact will change that. Like fans of professional wrestling learning it's staged.
Labeling an action "evil" and a "mistake" is certainly pretty close to an apology. I got no big problem with it. Diplomacy (kissing ass) is what world leaders do. But, I say it is an apology. Apologies do not always include the words "I am sorry".
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:51 AM
 
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Ehm - that's the inscription on the Hiroshima cenotaph. A cenotaph erected by Japan.
well that makes it worse Dane... who seems to know way more than a person really ought about this... makes me wonder ... ... ... ...


that means Mr. Obama repeated a well known refrain in Japan that clearly points to the evil of the USA dropping that bomb.


thank you for pointing out just how terrible Mr. Obamas choice of words were.
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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Quote where he said that.
Really? Why bother? Seriously...
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Houston
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yeah. I agree with you. Too personal for a lot of people. I guess in thousands years, most will forget.

That is why I don't think this tour is good for anybody.
Probably quicker than that. My wife (born in 1959) has no animosity toward the Japanese.
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:54 AM
 
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Really? Why bother? Seriously...
third time is a charm. Prog, you cannot get away from facts no matter how hard you try to deny them.




Obama becomes first U.S. president to visit site of world's first nuclear bombing - UPI.com
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Probably quicker than that. My wife (born in 1959) has no animosity toward the Japanese.
well, I was born in 1985 and I apologize to no one.

this said, as japanese/german, I do think I have a responsibility to make sure history won't repeat itself, for everybody's sake

My brother on the other hand, a Marine, an American, he can care less about the history. Was busy killing enemies, and now is busy running his business.

lol My boyfriend's grandpa is 96, he is a ww2 veteran who loves and adores me. sheesh, that is comforting because life is certainly easier for me.
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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are you playing echo today? that's what I said. "Obama did not applogize today"


my exact words.
Oh right. I mixed your "Obama called america evil" sentiment with the apology one.
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:58 AM
 
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Labeling an action "evil" and a "mistake" is certainly pretty close to an apology.
"Evil" comes from the inscription on the cenotaph. The Japanese inscription. Intended to decry the evil of war. Do I have to try interpretative dance to get that point across?
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