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I think we need to abolish or lower the legal age for many things. The only one I wouldn't support abolishing or lowering is gambling age. Legal adults have to be responsible for their gambling debts and what happens at casinos. Kids shouldn't ever be in that situation. At least not in a private casino.
What kind of society makes it more difficult for an 18 year old to obtain a beer than a gun?,
What makes you think it is harder to get beer than a gun? When I was 12 I only had to break into two homes, on average, to get enough cash to buy a few cases of beer assuming I didn't find any good liquor at the houses. I would have to do at least six houses to get enough loot for a handgun. I grew up in Texas, so I didn't find that many handguns in the houses I did, mostly shotguns and hunting rifles. guess everyone was packing their handgun just cause they could.
Most 18 year olds I knew could get a job and buy their own beer, so they didn't need guns to get beer. I couldn't get a job cause OSHA thought I might hurt myself if I learned how to use tools properly at a job before I turned 18. So I learned how to use my daddy's chainsaw when nobody was home to stop me and that made house burglary real easy. If the door didn't pop open with the sledge hammer, the chain saw opened it up real nice.
Once I turned 16 and they could try me as an adult, I had to stop burglarizing homes and turn to running the neighborhood kids to do my burglaries so I wouldnt have to do time. I still give em beer and the turn over most of the money they get. I still dont get many guns around here though. Maybe once they are actually outlawed and people have to start leaving them at home I will get some good ones.
I'm not uncontrollable...other people are. You see it in the newspapers--some guy shoots another over a woman, a man shoots his wife or vice versa, road rage incidents...
You want the gun rights that the writers of the Constitution gave? Fine. You can have a black powder, bore loaded MUSKET. No semiautomatic weapons. Happy hunting.
Yes you are, its a fact that people who believe that others can not be responsible or exercise self control believe this simply because those are qualities they dont posses themselves.
What you dont see in the news are the govt,t estimated 80,000 times a year people use guns to protect themselves ot stop crime. Thats the Govts estimate, thers others studies that estimate over 2 million. Even at 80,000 there would need to be over 200 shootings a day before it broke even.
Now, to adress your silly black powder muzzle loader statement lets be realistic. At the time a muzzleloader was an assault weapon, not an old fashioned obsolete weapon. They didn't protect the right to a spear, its there if you care to read what they wanted. They wanted the citizenry to be free to keep & bear arms IN COMMON USE. We, gun owners, are reasonable & have allowed you anti freedom folks to go past reasonable in order to placate a bunch of whining scaredy cats.
How many mass murders, and such violent crimes do we have to tolerate before any action is taken, there are more of these in the United States
than in the rest of the world put together. I agree that gun control will not solve most of the problem, but it will be a start.
What kind of society makes it more difficult for an 18 year old to obtain a beer than a gun?,this is just barbaric, Oh, the constitution grants the right to bear arms, well the hell with it, re-ammend the constitution, we don't need a cowboy society any more. Oh, the NRA is a special interest group blessed by the GOP?, who cares!
Perhaps you weren't aware, but all those "mass murders" you are referring to took place in areas that already had gun control. Proponents of gun control are really proponents of mass murder. They want everyone to be an unarmed victim, except for the criminals of course. Virginia Tech's masacre would not have occurred had students been allowed to excersize their constitutionally protect right to bear arms.
If you want to advocate for gun control, you had better realize that you are actually advocating for more mass murders, assaults, burglaries, rapes, and other violent crimes. Just take a look at what happened to England and Australia after their national gun bans - violent crime has skyrocketed well beyond any other industrialized nation on the planet.
Perhaps you weren't aware, but all those "mass murders" you are referring to took place in areas that already had gun control. Proponents of gun control are really proponents of mass murder. They want everyone to be an unarmed victim, except for the criminals of course. Virginia Tech's masacre would not have occurred had students been allowed to excersize their constitutionally protect right to bear arms.
If you want to advocate for gun control, you had better realize that you are actually advocating for more mass murders, assaults, burglaries, rapes, and other violent crimes. Just take a look at what happened to England and Australia after their national gun bans - violent crime has skyrocketed well beyond any other industrialized nation on the planet.
Exactly.
Mass murders happen in areas that don't allow gun carry. Illinois doesn't allow carry of firearms unless the owner is in a rural area, yet, we have the shooting that happened not too long ago.
Virginia Tech's masacre would not have occurred had students been allowed to excersize their constitutionally protect right to bear arms.
You sir are 100% correct. I attended VT in the mid 90s and knew many students who had to store their weapons with the campus police while they were on campus. In doing so they had to forcefully give up their right to bear arms, putting full faith in the protection of the campus police. But the campus police were never in a position to prevent crime or respond immediately, as no police force is... they're in a position to respond after a crime has occured and attempt to apprehend suspects and collect evidence.
In a typical case less than 3% of people carry concealed, but you never know who those 3% are or where they will be. That alone is a deterrent.
How many mass murders, and such violent crimes do we have to tolerate before any action is taken, there are more of these in the United States
than in the rest of the world put together. I agree that gun control will not solve most of the problem, but it will be a start.
What kind of society makes it more difficult for an 18 year old to obtain a beer than a gun?,this is just barbaric, Oh, the constitution grants the right to bear arms, well the hell with it, re-ammend the constitution, we don't need a cowboy society any more. Oh, the NRA is a special interest group blessed by the GOP?, who cares!
It is just like they are not too young to fight a war, but too young to drink.
I don't think the right to bear arms should be taken away. The ones that should not have guns will always be able to find them. We live in a very dangerous society and people should be able to defend their home and family. You will never be able to stop the undesireables from getting guns and those are the ones you have to worry about. We are slowly losing our rights as it is, I think they will have a fight on their hands if they try to take a persons gun away.
Sassy
blah blah blah... Automatic weapons are illegal, cant you talk about reality & actual circumstances instead of useing sensationalist stuff you make up to keep from sounding like an idiot? The reality is honest people & guns arent an issue other than they are beneficial & necessary in a free nation.
Actually, Automatic weapons are not Illegal, but the hoops you have to jump through to get the permits to obtain one, and the cost of buying one are amazingly difficult. If you have any blemish on your record at all, you cannot own one
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