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Old 07-23-2016, 10:23 AM
 
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I wouldn't use these terms, but I more or less agree. It's about globalism vs Americanism (in America .. it's about globalism vs. UKism in the UK, globalism vs. Italyism in Italy. etc.)

Mark me down for globalism. I'm all about international cooperation. I love it!




That term sure makes international control sound better, doesn't it?


A Rose by any other name...........
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Old 07-23-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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I think the problem is that people think of globalization or "new world order" as something that the corporations are pushing. Yes, corporations may benefit somewhat from globalization. However, it is the Central Banking Families who have always been pushing for the worldwide Plantation. They have essentially a private monopoly of the worlds fiat currencies. There will be a single fiat currency at some point, and it will completely digital. And the world's debtor/puppet governments already are essentially working for the same Families anyway. It has always been the goal of the Central Banking Families to merger all currencies and debtor governments into a single manageable entity. Their personal slave race. In all reality, they have already accomplished exactly what they have wanted, what follows are merely "official" formalities.
Not just some corporations. One worldism really is just an individual point of view mixed with some pure emotion (solipsism). It can be found in people who are in all corners of society.....even those who work for our NATIONAL government.
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Old 07-23-2016, 10:36 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Not just some corporations. One worldism really is just an individual point of view mixed with some pure emotion (solipsism). It can be found in people who are in all corners of society.....even those who work for our NATIONAL government.
Collectivism/statism and now "globalization" is simply a nightmare of "justified" slavery and oppression. The more "centralized" and larger the scope of any "planning" is, the more brutal and anti-human it must be to make "individuals" conform.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Collectivism/statism and now "globalization" is simply a nightmare of "justified" slavery and oppression. The more "centralized" and larger the scope of any "planning" is, the more brutal and anti-human it must be to make "individuals" conform.
What about when people cry globalism when there main objection to globalism is free trade? I, by and large, find the anti-globalists more socialist than the globalists.


The fact is treaties between nations can free individuals to travel and trade and pursue economic opportunities in other nations.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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So my protectionism makes me a socialist. I am amazed you noticed. Capitalism and free trade work for the investors and the traders while socialism works for me and the rest of us. Of course I am a socialist. I am also a supporter of the IWW.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:17 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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What about when people cry globalism when there main objection to globalism is free trade? I, by and large, find the anti-globalists more socialist than the globalists.
Well the problem is there is no free trade as there are no free markets. Everything in the "market" is regulated and manipulated by puppet debtor governments to serve the Omnipotent Financiers and their friends. Centralized planning is always anti-freedom and anti-human. The larger the scope of "agreements", "organizations" or "governments" become, the more brutal and oppressive that they must be toward the individual to make them conform.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Houston
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So my protectionism makes me a socialist. I am amazed you noticed. Capitalism and free trade work for the investors and the traders while socialism works for me and the rest of us. Of course I am a socialist. I am also a supporter of the IWW.
Thank you for backing up my point with evidence.


GregW is a typical anti-globalist. Individual liberty is not on his agenda.


What protectionists tell you is they want government to interfere with your transactions with 95% of the world's populace. That ain't limited government. It is also economically foolish.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Caribou, Me.
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Thank you for backing up my point with evidence.


GregW is a typical anti-globalist. Individual liberty is not on his agenda.


What protectionists tell you is they want government to interfere with your transactions with 95% of the world's populace. That ain't limited government. It is also economically foolish.
So you are libertarian? If so, just one more way in which libertarians are much closer to leftists than to conservatives.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:34 AM
 
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Exclamation America is Great!

Americans have always been independate thinkers. We are the reason for new ideas and a life style that is not dictated by a over pressive gov. The world would love for the USA to be like Europe, however as we have witness the EU is not what it was designed to do.

Matter of fact the USA and the good will of the American historically has came to the aid of Europe. WW1 and WW2, the cold war and humaitary help.

Those who think they like the idea of Globalism / One World think there is no negative issues. Most importantly we give our Right to be a Nation separet from every one eles and we will see our rights dissapear, becuase the are not constitant with other World Members.

Think about this guys. Bad deal for America!
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:37 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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So you are libertarian? If so, just one more way in which libertarians are much closer to leftists than to conservatives.
Philosophical libertarians have absolutely nothing to do with "left" and "right" authoritarians in this "society". The non-aggression principle defines the libertarian stance. The pro-aggression and initiation of force to impose one's will upon another is what defines every "left" and "right" position...
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