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Old 07-25-2016, 06:15 PM
 
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FBI investigation underway that the cybercrime against the Democratic Party was done by Russian intelligence. At the same time, Trump's deep connections to Putin and his colleagues are being increasingly exposed:

"The theory that Moscow orchestrated the leaks to help Trump, who has repeatedly praised Russian President Vladimir Putin and practically called for the end of NATO, is fast gaining currency within the Obama administration because of the timing of the leaks and Trump’s own connections to the Russian government" (source)

Trump’s campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, worked as a lobbyist for the Russian-backed former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych for more than a decade.

"The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington."

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008... “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

"Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on Russian investors to buy their properties around the world. ... his debt load has grown dramatically over the last year, from $350 million to $630 million."

The dots are all here. It's just a matter of connecting them.

There is serious reason to believe that Trump, if elected, would be seriously compromised by his business and personal ties to Vladimir Putin and Russian financiers.
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
FBI investigation underway that the cybercrime against the Democratic Party was done by Russian intelligence. At the same time, Trump's deep connections to Putin and his colleagues are being increasingly exposed:

"The theory that Moscow orchestrated the leaks to help Trump, who has repeatedly praised Russian President Vladimir Putin and practically called for the end of NATO, is fast gaining currency within the Obama administration because of the timing of the leaks and Trump’s own connections to the Russian government" (source)

Trump’s campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, worked as a lobbyist for the Russian-backed former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych for more than a decade.

"The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington."

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008... “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

"Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on Russian investors to buy their properties around the world. ... his debt load has grown dramatically over the last year, from $350 million to $630 million."

The dots are all here. It's just a matter of connecting them.

There is serious reason to believe that Trump, if elected, would be seriously compromised by his business and personal ties to Vladimir Putin and Russian financiers.

So the FBI has had two years to investigate Hillary's emails and 16 years to investigate the corruption of the Clinton Foundation, only to come up with "no conclusions" and it takes them three days to find a "Trump-Russia" connection?????

You dems/libs are so intellectually impaired that it is almost painful to hear your views.
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:20 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Damn!!! The libs are really getting desperate these days.
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:21 PM
 
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https://news.google.com/news/ampview...tml#pt0-915010
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:25 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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So the FBI has had two years to investigate Hillary's emails and 16 years to investigate the corruption of the Clinton Foundation, only to come up with "no conclusions" and it takes them three days to find a "Trump-Russia" connection?????

You dems/libs are so intellectually impaired that it is almost painful to hear your views.
The really sad thing is that they are in power and we have to deal with this kind of idiot corruption. Vote for Trump and send these incompetents back home where they belong. Surely everybody has had enough of the FBI favoring the Democrats and bringing lawsuit after lawsuit against anyone Republican.

Maybe Trump can straighten out the IRS.

I just want someone in office I can trust to be unbiased again. I have had enough of government targeting.
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:37 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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And by the way, has ANYONE in the DNC deneyed writing any of the emails? Or are they silent on it and trying to deflect this on Trump?
Nope. Just like when Asst Secretary of State Victoria Nuland was caught speaking to US Ambassador to the Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt on a tapped phone call released by the Russians, discussing who would succeed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovach, two weeks before he was ousted. She calls for Joe Biden to fly over and give encouragement to the opposition leaders.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

If you were following along at that time you know Joe Biden's son Hunter was named to the Board of Directors of Burisma, the national oil and gas company of the Ukraine, only a month later.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-s-soft-power/

You know who else was named to the Board of Directors of Burisma a couple weeks earlier? John Kerry's stepson, Christopher Heinz's, college roommate and best friend Devon Archer.
Biden's Son, Kerry Family Friend Join Ukrainian Gas Producer's Board - WSJ

The Obama admin, rather than admitting their blatant graft and corruption....Blamed Russia!!!
US Blames Russia for Leaking Profane Call:
U.S. Blames Russia for Leaking Profane Call - WSJ
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:43 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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The cyber attacks were months ago. It is alleged the Russian operatives held the e-mails until now, the beginning of the DNC convention, so that the release through Wikileaks would cause the most damage to Clinton and help Trump.
- How do we know Russians hacked this? It was stated in the Hillary email hearings that it is nearly impossible to tell if you've been hacked in most cases, much less by who. So now, with no formal investigation, in only 24 hours, they suspect the Russians?
- Wikileaks has not said the Russians gave them this info have they?
- Who is alleging all of this exactly?
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Old 07-25-2016, 06:44 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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This thread should be renamed

"Growing evidence: The dems are losing fight to bail out the bilges of S.S. Cankles after torpedo damage."

Gotta admit, Julian launched a helluva torpedo there.

Julian has promised another. I hope it's as big a hit as this one was.


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Old 07-25-2016, 07:05 PM
 
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- How do we know Russians hacked this?
NBC news summed up the evidence very well:

"Many U.S. officials and cyber security experts in and out of government are convinced that state-sponsored Russian hackers are the ones who stole 20,000 emails from the Democratic National Committee and leaked them to the public just in time to disrupt the Democrats' national convention in Philadelphia.
Here's why the experts are so confident the Russians did it:
  • GEOGRAPHY: At least one of the hacker groups attacking the DNC appeared to cease operations on Russian holidays, and its work hours aligned with a Russian time zone, cybersecurity company FireEye concluded in a report.
  • LANGUAGE: The hackers also left an obvious digital fingerprint, one cybersecurity expert said, perhaps on purpose: a signature in Russia's Cyrillic alphabet.
  • FORENSIC EVIDENCE: After a different batch of hacked Democratic emails was released last month, a wide spectrum of cyber-security experts concluded that it was the work of Russian intelligence agencies through previously known proxy groups known as COZY BEAR or APT 29, and FANCY BEAR or APT 28. "We've had lots of experience with both of these actors … and know them well," according to the DNC's own contract cybersecurity firm, Crowdstrike, which blogged that one of the two groups had already gained illegal access to the White House, State Department and even the military's Joint Chiefs of Staff.
  • MOTIVE: Given their mutual and very public bromance, Putin would much prefer a Trump presidency to a Clinton one, and the timing suggests the leak was timed for maximum embarrassment to the Democrats and their presumptive nominee."
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Old 07-25-2016, 07:17 PM
 
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No. No one has said Russians wrote the e-mails. There is evidence Russian intelligence broke into DNC computers and gave them to Wikileaks for posting. The FBI is investigating this now.
So, whats the problem that the DNC wrote those emails?
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