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Old 07-31-2016, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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I've grown tired with this cop out of an answer. It's a thinly veiled way of saying that "Black people are racist, too", except the US has only had one racial aggressor. It's clear that we are dealing with a situation of one group being significantly more racist than another.

Yours is not a satisfactory response.
Sorry if you don't like the truth, but the fact is people have always treated each other poorly and it has to do with who we are as social beings. We give the best treatment to family, next best to tribe, next best to neighbors and community, and so on. It just so happens that different races are at the bottom of the hierarchy. It has nothing to do with white people, black people, or the US. We just give this behavior the name "racism" when this shabby treatment is between people of different skin color. But it is no different than the Romans who enslaved everybody they conquered, regardless of color of the skin.
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Old 07-31-2016, 09:20 AM
 
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Racism is a special case of tribalism which is fully ingrained into human existence. Fighting racism is like the fight against other primitive instincts, it takes laws and education. The US definitely did not create racism and neither did any particular race.
It takes redirection. American society has not chosen to create a different set of tribal definitions other than race.

I've told this story before. At the end of our first very long day of basic training, about 2:00 in the morning of the next day, just before putting us to bed, our drill instructor gave us a speech.

He was Sergeant Jimmy Weeks, a guy from South Carolina about 5 feet tall and three feet wide at the shoulders who had a thick southern drawl. He pulled us together in a huddle and told us:

"One thing we ain't gonna have in this flight is racial troubles. The reason we ain't gonna have racial troubles is because you ain't got no reason to have racial troubles. The reason you ain't got no reason to have racial troubles is because you're all the same color, namely green. You all got the same hair, namely none. You all got the same daddy, namely me. And you all got the same wants an' desires, namely to get the &$*#*^$ out of here!"

See what he was doing? Erasing the tribalism definitions we came in with and replacing them with different definitions.
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Old 07-31-2016, 09:40 AM
 
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Jon Locke was English and so were British Americans when the first slaves arrived in the British colonies in 1619.

Of corse the French trafficked slaves for profit as did the Spanish. And let us not forget who restarted the slave trade in the 1400s, the Portugues who controlled trade in Midddle and southern africa during that time period.

Hundreds of years of might makes right mentality and the belief in the superiority of the White European race over their black brothers? The ABSOLUTE ownership of human chattle to do with as you please and the later belief that we were their "responsible caretakers. At least in the south anyway. Slave rebellions, fear and panic, abolition, bloody kansas, Radicals like John Brown, civil war, the rise of the klan, civil rights movement and white push back?

The black panthers and the klan still exist today.

Pretty simple to understand if you read books.
Is there a reason in your history lesson why you did NOT mention that BLACKS SOLD OTHER BLACKS INTO SLAVERY?
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:33 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Sorry if you don't like the truth, but the fact is people have always treated each other poorly and it has to do with who we are as social beings. We give the best treatment to family, next best to tribe, next best to neighbors and community, and so on. It just so happens that different races are at the bottom of the hierarchy. It has nothing to do with white people, black people, or the US. We just give this behavior the name "racism" when this shabby treatment is between people of different skin color. But it is no different than the Romans who enslaved everybody they conquered, regardless of color of the skin.
I didn't exactly say your points were incorrect, but they do not address the topic directly.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:04 PM
 
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Did black people bring racism over here from Africa or is it possible we learned this behavior from somewhere else?

Who came first, the KKK or the Black Panthers? More importantly, which group is still active today?
I blame the british
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:07 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Did black people bring racism over here from Africa or is it possible we learned this behavior from somewhere else?

Who came first, the KKK or the Black Panthers? More importantly, which group is still active today?

Face it, there are distinctive tribes, based upon racial lines in the USA. People will always be drawn to those just like them. The LAW of NATURE.
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Old 07-31-2016, 01:53 PM
 
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Is there a reason in your history lesson why you did NOT mention that BLACKS SOLD OTHER BLACKS INTO SLAVERY?
To Christians who knew it was a sin to buy them.
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Old 07-31-2016, 08:27 PM
 
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Obama is responsible for turning things for the worse.. He enabled many and put forth division.
No he didn't. America was always divided we are now just able to record it and expose it.
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Old 07-31-2016, 08:30 PM
 
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Keep in mind that Jewish people were slaves too and they don't keep whining about it nor do most of them talk too much about the Holocaust and the Nazi's/Germans and keep blaming them.

There is a point in time that people need to move on and as a child of two Holocaust survivors who lost many family members I feel I'm entitled to say this.

I feel that over the last few years more people are bringing slavery up due to Michele Obama now keep saying she lives in a house built by slaves but she forgets also white people were working on building the WH.

They want to become a victim to start the blame game as that is what democrats do to win votes. Start pointing fingers to make them feel better. Very sad and damaging to the next generation as it increases hate!
Lol this must be a satire post lol....
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Old 07-31-2016, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Did black people bring racism over here from Africa or is it possible we learned this behavior from somewhere else?

Who came first, the KKK or the Black Panthers? More importantly, which group is still active today?
Government causes most of what affects us. The media perpetrates it because ratings matter, the truth doesn't.
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